Istanbul taxi accident
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Istanbul taxi accident
The A321 had arrived from Ercan as flight TK969 and arrived at the gate at 14:47 UTC. At the same time the A330 had commenced taxiing to the runway. Flight OZ552 was returning to Seoul, South Korea. While taxiing past the A321, the right hand wing tip impacted the the vertical stabilizer of TK969.
The A321's vertical stabilizer was knocked over entirely and the A330's wing tip sustained serious damage.
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I don't think that visibility and daylight are important factors in such cases. You must follow the yellow taxi lines and as far as I know there is no rule which necessitates the cockpit crew to check the wingtips during taxiing. Is there?
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After closely inspecting the video I can say that this accident occured due to controller error.
Turkish Airlines aircraft is not moving but it is definitely not at the final parking position. There must be something with the jetway or something else. Ground control should not give the Asiana taxi clearance before its way is fully clear.
Turkish Airlines aircraft is not moving but it is definitely not at the final parking position. There must be something with the jetway or something else. Ground control should not give the Asiana taxi clearance before its way is fully clear.
After closely inspecting the video I can say that this accident occured due to controller error.
Turkish Airlines aircraft is not moving but it is definitely not at the final parking position. There must be something with the jetway or something else. Ground control should not give the Asiana taxi clearance before its way is fully clear.
Turkish Airlines aircraft is not moving but it is definitely not at the final parking position. There must be something with the jetway or something else. Ground control should not give the Asiana taxi clearance before its way is fully clear.
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The A330 isn't hanging about and, looking at the impact, I wonder if the A321 could be a write-off.
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Can somebody explain the spectacular, F1 lookalike, "jump-start" of the A330 ? Could it be he selected a much too high power setting until somebody figured out that brakes need the be released to achieve significant forward motion.
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Is there a rule where to stop if you get the 'stop short' signal (or the gate is not set/marshal not present)? There seem to be no markings on the apron for that.
The anti-collision lights could have gave it away for the 330 crew (most probably it was on but not seen on the video for the low frame rate).
The anti-collision lights could have gave it away for the 330 crew (most probably it was on but not seen on the video for the low frame rate).
Aircraft often taxi 'half-way' on to a stand where the docking guidance system hasn't been turned off yet. My guess is, that's the reason the TK A321 was in the position it was at the time of collision. I suppose the idea is to clear the taxiway, but in places where space is scarce you may not have fully cleared the TWY until you're almost at final parking position. Perhaps it's time to evaluate the commonly seen practice of turning into a parking position, without active DGS or the presence of a marshaller.
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I've seen a post incident video from ground crew by the rear of the 321, quite an amount of the rear of the ac is out into the taxiway, so i'm surprised the 330 crew didn't see it. That said, if a crew can not taxi fully onto stand for whatever reason, they need to advise ATC soonest as they have now blocked the taxiway, simple. Syamaner, I see no ATC fault here, it is no issue for them to give taxi clearance to the Asiana if the Turkish has passed / is infront. If the whole length of the taxiway had to be fully clear, things would happen very very slow on any airport...
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OK, I've been out of the business for a few years, but it used to be that the RESPONSIBILITY for the SAFETY of the aircraft rested with the CREW. If in doubt, STOP.
After closely inspecting the video I can say that this accident occured due to controller error.
Turkish Airlines aircraft is not moving but it is definitely not at the final parking position. There must be something with the jetway or something else. Ground control should not give the Asiana taxi clearance before its way is fully clear.
Turkish Airlines aircraft is not moving but it is definitely not at the final parking position. There must be something with the jetway or something else. Ground control should not give the Asiana taxi clearance before its way is fully clear.
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I think it unfair to blame anyone from this video. But we should consider how the airport was laid out and whether or not the Turkish Airbus was inside or outside the stand markings (that normally should exist). It would also be interesting to hear what taxi clearances were issued to aircraft in this vicinity and whether or not the ground controller responsible for this part of the airfield knew that the Turkish Airbus was not yet parked. I'd also like to know what speed the Asiana was taxying. With this information I might then start to form some opinion.
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The A330 damage to the front spar on the other hand.......
New Zealand Press report !!
Whose tail ? Think about it !!
An Asiana A330 plane was taxiing into the terminal when its wing crashed into the Turkish Airlines A321 causing the A330 tail to sever in half.