End of the road for Iran aviation imports
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Consistent American policy is that only one country in the Middle East is allowed to have a secret, uninspected nuclear weapons program and it is not Iran.
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Looks kinda like ALPA's usual response to the company's opener :
https://twitter.com/MEMRIReports/sta...32722108026885
https://twitter.com/MEMRIReports/sta...32722108026885
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"Now"? It's been that way for decades; what I don't understand is 'why'. That entire tiny country could be vaporized tomorrow and nobody here would be affected in the least, nor care. But yet our politicians in the USA obey like lapdogs. I don't get it.
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I am no -ones spokesman but reflecting the objective truth that a lot of people in the USA and just about every other world leader , opinion maker and sentient being thinks the President has made a major mistake
When yr only supporters are Netanyahu and the Saudis yr in a lonely place...............
In this case it's because Israel obtained the secret documents from Teheran - and were able to tell the US that the secret documents proved that the Iranians were really really nasty people, and as luck would have it, just in the nick of time for The Donald to have a completely concrete reason to scupper his predecessor's terrible deal. Israel has done a great job in keeping the secret documents so secret that I haven't seen any reports of what's actually in them. I presume that's so that none of Iran's neighbours have to wonder whether 45 minutes (randomly chosen, just for example) warning of any ooh er definitely real big bang objects referred to in the secret documents might be worth having really?
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Trump's attitude to China is already driving them to develop indigenous high technology industries to make things they currently buy in from the USA because the USA is clearly an unreliable partner. Europe will likely do the same.
The real problem is US "Secondary sanctions". "Primary sanctions" means a US company can't trade with Iran - so Boeing can't sell to an Iranian airline. "Secondary sanctions" mean a US company can't trade with any company that trades with Iran. So American Airlines can't buy an Airbus if Airbus also sells to Iran (even if the Airbus aircraft contains no American parts). Secondary sanctions are the world-wide bullying tactic of the USA, and they have been stopped before - the EU forced the USA to withdraw secondary sanctions over Cuba in 1996. See https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-ir...-idUKKBN1IA2PG for a summary.
I must be missing something but didn't Donnie campaign promise that he would withdraw if elected. Keeping a promise. I like that. Obama drew a red line & let everyone cross it. Don;t like that much.
Boy a lot of people in here trusting Iran!!
what.....
I suppose you think North Korea will never come to the table either!!
they certainly didn’t under Obama and Bush did they fellas.
Trump haters are so predictable.
what.....
I suppose you think North Korea will never come to the table either!!
they certainly didn’t under Obama and Bush did they fellas.
Trump haters are so predictable.
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Any ideas of simply renegotiating the hard-won compromises Iran gave us as if it was some sleazy real estate deal of Trumpian standards is pure folly. We've turned our backs on our allies and broken our word and bond and in the process, incensed an abused nation that is the Iranian people.
We may not agree with their government, but it should be remembered that international relations are not won and lost in short-term, one-shot "deals" like down at the used car lot or at some gaudy Trump property management office.
The process is, more often than not, moved forward in steps, some of which are not easy for either side. Academics refer to international treaties and agreements as an iterative process with the eyes on the long term prize. That requires a bit of vision and not that of the myopic kind.
We may not agree with their government, but it should be remembered that international relations are not won and lost in short-term, one-shot "deals" like down at the used car lot or at some gaudy Trump property management office.
The process is, more often than not, moved forward in steps, some of which are not easy for either side. Academics refer to international treaties and agreements as an iterative process with the eyes on the long term prize. That requires a bit of vision and not that of the myopic kind.
I suspect that trumps contribution to North Koreas change of heart was that the Chinese could use him as the Mad man ' in the Mad man theory.
Ie this guy is nits and really might nuke you- as we live next door thats not good for us so sort things out with the yanks or we will sort you out .
Israel is just a votes issue, a powerful lobby in USA in some very key areas, like NY and LA. Squeeze Israel and we will vote for the other guy .
As for keeping promises -Hitler did that to a large degree especially right after he got elected-that worked out really well for Germany didnt it
Ie this guy is nits and really might nuke you- as we live next door thats not good for us so sort things out with the yanks or we will sort you out .
Israel is just a votes issue, a powerful lobby in USA in some very key areas, like NY and LA. Squeeze Israel and we will vote for the other guy .
As for keeping promises -Hitler did that to a large degree especially right after he got elected-that worked out really well for Germany didnt it
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I must be missing something but didn't Donnie campaign promise that he would withdraw if elected. Keeping a promise. I like that
Making promises during a campaign based on emotions and implementing them against the advice from you own security advisers is never a good thing. Upsetting and not listening to your traditional allies is not a good thing either. Mr Trump has managed to do both in 10 minutes.
Being a successful showman and being President of the most powerful country in the planet ( at the moment) are 2 different things.
If the US stop being a reliable partner (in Aviation or else), China will very nicely fill the void and I think the Europeans are likely to follow the new leader.
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There is no direct ban for US-made components in aircraft, however there is a threshold on the max value %% of US-made components in total aircraft value. Generally speaking no jet can fit under it, but ATR and Dash8 may get there is thier engines are not US made.
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I know the engines are made by Pratt & Whitney Canada but isn't the parent company US owned?
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I don't think Airbus or Boeing declare their prime sales targets as Iran Air.
Not a big deal. Look at their delivery backlogs.
Their sales stars are too busy with Emirates, Lufthansa and Singapore.
Not a big deal. Look at their delivery backlogs.
Their sales stars are too busy with Emirates, Lufthansa and Singapore.
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Hard to believe that America doesn’t want to send hundreds of millions to a country that chants, “death to America” as they pursue nuclear weapon capabilities.The Apologist isn’t in charge anymore.