Drunk BA Cabin Crew
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Nice headline, but would it be slightly churlish of me to point out that in one of the cases the act of being unfit for duty happened when the individual was working for Norwegian?
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Controversial, moi?
In my career I met more than one BA cabin crew member with an alcohol problem. Equally I met more than one BA pilot with an alcohol problem.
I have no doubt there are others in other airlines.
I hope I speak for the majority when I say that a true alcoholic needs support and a degree of sympathy not outright condemnation.
I do not, of course, find it acceptable if someone attempts to fly either as CC or as a pilot while under the influence.
I have no doubt there are others in other airlines.
I hope I speak for the majority when I say that a true alcoholic needs support and a degree of sympathy not outright condemnation.
I do not, of course, find it acceptable if someone attempts to fly either as CC or as a pilot while under the influence.
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In my career I met more than one BA cabin crew member with an alcohol problem. Equally I met more than one BA pilot with an alcohol problem.
I have no doubt there are others in other airlines.
I hope I speak for the majority when I say that a true alcoholic needs support and a degree of sympathy not outright condemnation.
I do not, of course, find it acceptable if someone attempts to fly either as CC or as a pilot while under the influence.
I have no doubt there are others in other airlines.
I hope I speak for the majority when I say that a true alcoholic needs support and a degree of sympathy not outright condemnation.
I do not, of course, find it acceptable if someone attempts to fly either as CC or as a pilot while under the influence.
Why posters have to gloat is somewhat disappointing.
The woman's life is in disarray and I hope someone is looking after her.
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One hopes that, given her 21 years of unblemished service to BA, they will be able to suspend her, probably without pay, and arrange rehabilitation for her so that she can be reactivated back to work at a later date, should she want to go back. It is her union's job to support and represent her.
As for the young lad in Norway, they have been doing random spot check breath tests on the ramp as far back as I can remember, not just departing crew but arriving crew from foreign airlines, he really should have known better.
As for the young lad in Norway, they have been doing random spot check breath tests on the ramp as far back as I can remember, not just departing crew but arriving crew from foreign airlines, he really should have known better.
She was arrested at Heathrow’s Terminal 5 after being reported by a passenger who smelled the booze on her breath.
One hopes that, given her 21 years of unblemished service to BA, they will be able to suspend her, probably without pay, and arrange rehabilitation for her so that she can be reactivated back to work at a later date, should she want to go back. It is her union's job to support and represent her.
As for the young lad in Norway, they have been doing random spot check breath tests on the ramp as far back as I can remember, not just departing crew but arriving crew from foreign airlines, he really should have known better.
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Would you have the same opinion if your life depended on her actions during an emergency?
Interesting question insofar as......
I'm asked to familiarise myself with exit options (I always do...call it SLF Pre Flight check if you like, when I'm not actually flying..)
Can I operate an exit row...yes....
I know why the the blinds are up for take off and landing...and I know what to look for....
essentially she and I would be on the same page...in an emergency my life depends on what I do...not on her OR HIS actions...but then again I educate myself...
My only real problem is for all the 'Show' during certification....I'd really like to see a cabin full evacuate in 90 secs in real time....Ha!!
Interesting question insofar as......
I'm asked to familiarise myself with exit options (I always do...call it SLF Pre Flight check if you like, when I'm not actually flying..)
Can I operate an exit row...yes....
I know why the the blinds are up for take off and landing...and I know what to look for....
essentially she and I would be on the same page...in an emergency my life depends on what I do...not on her OR HIS actions...but then again I educate myself...
My only real problem is for all the 'Show' during certification....I'd really like to see a cabin full evacuate in 90 secs in real time....Ha!!
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Would you have the same opinion if your life depended on her actions during an emergency?
Interesting question insofar as......
I'm asked to familiarise myself with exit options (I always do...call it SLF Pre Flight check if you like, when I'm not actually flying..)
Can I operate an exit row...yes....
I know why the the blinds are up for take off and landing...and I know what to look for....
essentially she and I would be on the same page...in an emergency my life depends on what I do...not on her OR HIS actions...but then again I educate myself...
My only real problem is for all the 'Show' during certification....I'd really like to see a cabin full evacuate in 90 secs in real time....Ha!!
Interesting question insofar as......
I'm asked to familiarise myself with exit options (I always do...call it SLF Pre Flight check if you like, when I'm not actually flying..)
Can I operate an exit row...yes....
I know why the the blinds are up for take off and landing...and I know what to look for....
essentially she and I would be on the same page...in an emergency my life depends on what I do...not on her OR HIS actions...but then again I educate myself...
My only real problem is for all the 'Show' during certification....I'd really like to see a cabin full evacuate in 90 secs in real time....Ha!!
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.......Having listened to a couple or three tales of squished up Cattle-Class rides, albeit on US internals, I'm not sure it would make much difference in a rapid evacuation scenario if one or two cabin staff were gently trollied anyway. Disregarding the routine wind-up shock-horror witterings in the desperate Tabloids, and self needing to suffer long haul airline travel regularly on a tight personal budget squished into a tight personal space, I'll stick with BA. Once airborne everything always seems predictably calm, organised and disciplined. No over-long or copy-cat comedy P.A.s, no atmosphere of self empowered cabin police, and no hurry to whack off the lights and retreat to the galleys just because it's dark. Strictly a guess, but if a person has concerns about leaving in a hurry, surely best merely to choose an aisle seat, and know well your route to the nearest exit. Naturally, bearing in mind the needs of others, so without retrieving your shopping and random luggage of course.....Only ever did it once, and they allowed us back on later once the smoke had cleared to get our shoes.
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Would you have the same opinion if your life depended on her actions during an emergency?
Interesting question insofar as......
I'm asked to familiarise myself with exit options (I always do...call it SLF Pre Flight check if you like, when I'm not actually flying..)
Can I operate an exit row...yes....
I know why the the blinds are up for take off and landing...and I know what to look for....
essentially she and I would be on the same page...in an emergency my life depends on what I do...not on her OR HIS actions...but then again I educate myself...
My only real problem is for all the 'Show' during certification....I'd really like to see a cabin full evacuate in 90 secs in real time....Ha!!
Interesting question insofar as......
I'm asked to familiarise myself with exit options (I always do...call it SLF Pre Flight check if you like, when I'm not actually flying..)
Can I operate an exit row...yes....
I know why the the blinds are up for take off and landing...and I know what to look for....
essentially she and I would be on the same page...in an emergency my life depends on what I do...not on her OR HIS actions...but then again I educate myself...
My only real problem is for all the 'Show' during certification....I'd really like to see a cabin full evacuate in 90 secs in real time....Ha!!
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"As for the young lad in Norway, they have been doing random spot check breath tests on the ramp as far back as I can remember, not just departing crew but arriving crew from foreign airlines, he really should have known better."
they do them all the time and not just in airports - a favourite is road block in the morning to catch commuters who have over indulged the night before - in Norway you really should think about drinking if you plan to use ANY machinery for the next 48 hours...............
they do them all the time and not just in airports - a favourite is road block in the morning to catch commuters who have over indulged the night before - in Norway you really should think about drinking if you plan to use ANY machinery for the next 48 hours...............
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Hmmm. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the lady in this case, something puzzles me: Decent vodka, being basically ethanol, is tasteless and odourless, making it the drink of choice for alcoholics etc. So how did the passenger "smell it on her breath"?
Surely BA isn't serving moonshine now?
Incidentally, who is going to tell the Scum how simple it is to tell the difference between a 787 and an A380? Or how to take 10 minutes to discover the flight on that day was with G-XLEB?
Surely BA isn't serving moonshine now?
Incidentally, who is going to tell the Scum how simple it is to tell the difference between a 787 and an A380? Or how to take 10 minutes to discover the flight on that day was with G-XLEB?
Decent vodka, being basically ethanol, is tasteless and odourless, making it the drink of choice for alcoholics etc. So how did the passenger "smell it on her breath"?
Anyone who can't smell such a high concentration of alcohol on someone else's breath either has a medical problem, or, is more than likely intoxicated themselves.