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EC notice on BREXIT issued, licenses/certificates invalid

Old 6th Dec 2018, 07:32
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Originally Posted by ATC Watcher
Well tell this to the staff of Easy Jet and Ryanair currently based in the continent..
A different medical and paperwork for a licence conversion is an annoyance. But I could hardly describe that as chaotic. No more ‘chaotic’ than when UK pilots all hit a trigger event and had to convert their UK licence to EASA.
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Old 6th Dec 2018, 07:57
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Originally Posted by de facto
Thanks,
By the way,the irish caa is amazingly fast in replying and straight to the point rather than those semi generic crap answers we get for the uk after 3 weeks....maybe its for the best then..
Maybe you are lucky i sent mail to them week ago with no response, and that was just to confirm my mail got in. Telephone not working...
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Old 6th Dec 2018, 11:11
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Well tell this to the staff of Easy Jet and Ryanair currently based in the continent..
Yes tell all the unemployed young people of Europe how lucky they are, could be worse EasyJet and Ryanair pilots have to complete some forms to keep their jobs. I have gone UK JAA and EASA.. I must be a 'legend'.

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Old 6th Dec 2018, 14:09
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I have gone UK JAA and EASA.. I must be a 'legend'.
or a dinausaur , but I like "legend" too.. JAA was a great invention , run by competent people, EASA less so I grant you that.
But if you are from hat era you must remember the queues at the border on the roads and the mess at passport control ? Also both Easy and RYR have brought down fares and possibilities all over Europe compared to that era. Nostalgic of the past ? You might get that in the UK shortly if it ends up with a hard Brexit with no deal.
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Old 6th Dec 2018, 15:13
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Maybe you are lucky i sent mail to them week ago with no response, and that was just to confirm my mail got in. Telephone not working...
can imagine how busy the peeps at the IAA must be right now, I suspect talking to people to confirm about the papers they already have is not a priority for them right now.

Anhow I have also pulled the trigger and my papers as well should be in Dublin tomorrow, hope I didn’t leave it too late.


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Old 10th Dec 2018, 09:59
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Transatlantic flights after Brexit

In case you missed it, on 30 November, the Department for Transport (DfT) announced that
Millions of passengers will be able to enjoy the same access to transatlantic routes once the UK leaves the EU. ..... the UK has reached a new air services arrangement with Canada which will see flights continue between the 2 nations post Brexit.

The deal ensures that planes flying from the UK will continue to enjoy the same access they currently have with Canada, helping the UK maintain its place as Europe’s most important aviation hub.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/t...ir-arrangement

It follows a similar announcement two days earlier about an ‘open skies’ air services arrangement with the USA and nine other countries.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/u...s-arrangements

Presumably that will all depend on there being enough crew with the appropriate licenses to fly these routes, and enough aeroplanes with appropriate certification.

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Old 10th Dec 2018, 16:03
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"helping the UK maintain its place as Europe’s most important aviation hub."

They mean Transatlantic dead end? If you can't fly on to Europe it isn't much of a European hub is it??
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Old 15th Dec 2018, 14:56
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could someone help me out on what steps I should take

I have a class 1 medical from the UK. Havent actually started any flying lessons yet but will be starting my PPL in poland after january. How would i go about changing my medical to a polish medical ? Would I just have to re do an initial first class medical in poland?
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Old 15th Dec 2018, 23:11
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I believe if you have a class 1 issued by one EASA state, this will be transferred to another EASA stated and accepted. So you will not need to re do the medical again. But happy to be corrected.
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It seems that the possibility of flights being grounded on 30 March is being taken more seriously. Sunday Times Deputy Political Editor, Caroline Wheeler, has a piece today headlined
…don’t go on holiday after March 29.
It includes this:
Families will be advised not to book holidays after next March, according to contingency plans being drawn up to prepare for a no-deal Brexit.
The proposed guidance, which will shock the travel industry, was expected to be discussed at last week’s cancelled cabinet meeting, after civil servants were told to ramp up emergency planning.
Senior officials have explored the idea with at least one cabinet minister and discussed the impact that the advice could have on specific tour operators amid fears it might bankrupt them. A leak inquiry was under way in No 10 last night to establish how the proposal became public.
and
The European Regions Airline Association, which represents 50 airlines, wrote to the European Commission this month warning that it must act urgently to prevent the grounding of flights. It said a no-deal Brexit could have “disastrous consequences”, affecting routes, aviation safety and border security. The Ryanair boss, Michael O’Leary, said in September that a hard Brexit could lead to flights being grounded and that its likelihood was underestimated.
The piece is at
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...h-29-jnfmrgsj9
but I suspect it may be behind a paywall.

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Old 16th Dec 2018, 11:27
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Interesting to see the Govt's first reaction is to set up a leak enquiry.

Personally I'm more worried about the complete failure of the UK Govt to sort out our licences and approvals in good time. It's now pretty much too late to do anything about it so it's squeaky bum time for a bit
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Old 16th Dec 2018, 11:46
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I posted about this exact issue at #527

EC notice on BREXIT issued, licenses/certificates invalid

With TM possibly taking this to the wire (the wire legally being 21st Jan) the impact on those airlines/tour operators currently circling the drain may be terminal. And this is a matter of the public perception regarding risk to their pockets and their holiday plans. Government disclaimers will have little impact (for most us, the square root of not a lot).

What was it Bojo said about business?
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Old 17th Dec 2018, 02:55
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Originally Posted by robin
Interesting to see the Govt's first reaction is to set up a leak enquiry.

Personally I'm more worried about the complete failure of the UK Govt.
Fixed it for you....

(And I know, in reality not funny at all now for all sorts of people for all sorts of reasons)


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Old 17th Dec 2018, 16:29
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Originally Posted by nightfright
I believe if you have a class 1 issued by one EASA state, this will be transferred to another EASA stated and accepted. So you will not need to re do the medical again. But happy to be corrected.
How do i transfer my medical to another easa state. From the CAA website there is only a transfer option from an EASA state to them. Im trying to do the opposite and change to polish medical license
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Old 17th Dec 2018, 16:53
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Fill up SRG 1202 form so that the UK CAA can release your medical details. Make sure they receive it - you might need to wait some time.

Then, since you don’t have a valid licence yet, contact your new CAA (the aeromedical section of the Polish CAA in this case). Follow their instructions and you’ll get your new EASA medical.

It’s not a hard process but can be very slow.
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Old 17th Dec 2018, 21:22
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Originally Posted by BONES_
Fill up SRG 1202 form so that the UK CAA can release your medical details. Make sure they receive it - you might need to wait some time.

Then, since you don’t have a valid licence yet, contact your new CAA (the aeromedical section of the Polish CAA in this case). Follow their instructions and you’ll get your new EASA medical.

It’s not a hard process but can be very slow.
There are forms SRG2150 and also SRG1202. Do both need to be completed for changing the state of issue of the medical certificate?
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Old 17th Dec 2018, 21:46
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Like BONES said get in touch with the Polish CAA. They are the best entity to advise you on the subject ... (assuming that the ATO that you will attend to do the PPL is a Polish ATO). Also check with the ATO (the flight school) that you will attend to do the PPL after January to see what advise they can provide on the subject.

Fill up SRG 1202 form so that the UK CAA can release your medical details. Make sure they receive it - you might need to wait some time.
NOT sure about this. Believe that SRG 1202 is to transfer from another EASA country, to the CAA. The form says:
"Transfer of Medical Records to the UK Aeromedical Section (AMS)"
I recently transfered from the UK to Ireland, and did not use SRG 1202.
You have however to use SRG 1201. This is to pay (£77) to the UK CAA, so that they will transfer your Medical Data to the Polish CAA.

Originally Posted by nightfright
I believe if you have a class 1 issued by one EASA state, this will be transferred to another EASA stated and accepted. So you will not need to re do the medical again. But happy to be corrected.
No need to be corrected. You are correct ...
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Old 18th Dec 2018, 08:57
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I would love to know how many applications the IAA have been recieving, they must be crazy busy.
about 1/2 of my colleagues (all the UK licence holders) have applied this week!
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Old 18th Dec 2018, 12:59
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Originally Posted by SFIM
I would love to know how many applications the IAA have been recieving, they must be crazy busy.
about 1/2 of my colleagues (all the UK licence holders) have applied this week!
Is there any reason in particular everyone here seems to be going over to the IAA? Might be a good idea to avoid them at this point given how much volume they are receiving. What are the Scandinavian authorities like?
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Old 18th Dec 2018, 14:23
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I would love to know how many applications the IAA have been recieving, they must be crazy busy.
about 1/2 of my colleagues (all the UK licence holders) have applied this week!
I sent my papers last week november, was received on 29th by IAA, still no response, simple adding of endorsement. When I did conversion to Ireland it took roughly 12 weeks (that was year ago).
Last endorsement I added in October was done for 2 weeks sharp. I hope they have some mandatory deadlines otherwise it can take months.
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