EC notice on BREXIT issued, licenses/certificates invalid
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Should UK not become an EASA member state after Brexit, UK licences will no longer be EASA-compliant and thus one will be able to hold both a UK licence and an EASA licence at the same time.
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But having said all that - I can't help believing that this is just ' process ' from the EU and as far as our industry is concerned, in two years' time we'll be wondering why any of us even thought it was worth contributing to this thread.
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Exactly!!!! can't you see???? the UK will NOT leave the EU, never, and all this is purely " Circus Act "........ In a few months, everything will get back to normal!!!
No worries.
But having said all that - I can't help believing that this is just ' process ' from the EU and as far as our industry is concerned, in two years' time we'll be wondering why any of us even thought it was worth contributing to this thread.
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Exactly!!!! can't you see???? the UK will NOT leave the EU, never, and all this is purely " Circus Act "........ In a few months, everything will get back to normal!!!
No worries.
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When the implementation period is agreed EASA will continue to be the licensing authority for the UK. However, the UK would not wish to be beholden to the EU for ever, so it would make sense to re-establish the UK CAA. We have two years and nine months to get the CAA up and running again, which is achievable if the will is there. Whether or not Mike Vivien is up to the job is another question, but apparently 70% of the folk who work for EASA are Brits, so there should be no lack of manpower, if the price is right.
From the moment that the UK joined the EU, the island nation has always asked for exemptions and exeptions from standard EU rulings. Why?
What makes the UK so special that it requires a different treatment compared to any other EU nation? Good riddance.
The UK will become some sort of Taiwan-China, known as UK-EU. Totally dependent and waiting for permission from Brussels in all affairs.
What makes the UK so special that it requires a different treatment compared to any other EU nation? Good riddance.
The UK will become some sort of Taiwan-China, known as UK-EU. Totally dependent and waiting for permission from Brussels in all affairs.
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Good riddance.
The UK will become some sort of Taiwan-China, known as UK-EU. Totally dependent and waiting for permission from Brussels in all affairs.
The UK will become some sort of Taiwan-China, known as UK-EU. Totally dependent and waiting for permission from Brussels in all affairs.
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After reading the link provided I found this to be interesting
The European Union’s aviation safety legislation applies in 32 European countries – the current 28 EU Member States and the following four associated countries: Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, and Switzerland. The countries to which this legislation applies will, for the purposes of simplification, hereafter be referred to as "EASA Member States".
Could the 4 associated countries become 5 in the next couple of years ?
The European Union’s aviation safety legislation applies in 32 European countries – the current 28 EU Member States and the following four associated countries: Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, and Switzerland. The countries to which this legislation applies will, for the purposes of simplification, hereafter be referred to as "EASA Member States".
Could the 4 associated countries become 5 in the next couple of years ?
From the moment that the UK joined the EU, the island nation has always asked for exemptions and exeptions from standard EU rulings. Why?
What makes the UK so special that it requires a different treatment compared to any other EU nation? Good riddance.
The UK will become some sort of Taiwan-China, known as UK-EU. Totally dependent and waiting for permission from Brussels in all affairs.
What makes the UK so special that it requires a different treatment compared to any other EU nation? Good riddance.
The UK will become some sort of Taiwan-China, known as UK-EU. Totally dependent and waiting for permission from Brussels in all affairs.
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Well, so far as the IR(R) is concerned we've got an answer: the weather.
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My word. There’s a lot of undemocratic anti Brexit, anti Brit feeling here!
Couldn’t have put it better myself.
I don’t foresee any problems for UK residents, using UK licences to fly for UK airlines. Why would there be?
Or air traffic controllers working at UK airports.
On the other hand, those wishing/needing to retain currency on an EASA licence, whilst working in the UK, may have to rethink their employment situation?
Whilst the EU may wish to sabotage/punish the UK. I’m sure the tourist industries of places like Spain, Portugal, Greece, France, Italy etc would miss their British tourists spending their British pounds!
Not to mention a good few other inconvenient truths!
Not really too sure there'll be too much of a problem for UK crew...
I don’t foresee any problems for UK residents, using UK licences to fly for UK airlines. Why would there be?
Or air traffic controllers working at UK airports.
On the other hand, those wishing/needing to retain currency on an EASA licence, whilst working in the UK, may have to rethink their employment situation?
Whilst the EU may wish to sabotage/punish the UK. I’m sure the tourist industries of places like Spain, Portugal, Greece, France, Italy etc would miss their British tourists spending their British pounds!
Not to mention a good few other inconvenient truths!
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Why? - you can hold an EASA licence in any country in the world and keep it current as long as you meet the recency requirements.
The CAA gives the option for EASA licence holders to be issued a parallel UK licence free of charge if a citizen of the UK. As a result, I hold both EASA and UK ATPLs. I suspect many EASA ATPLs issued by the CAA are also mirrored UK ATPLs.
And if you're applying for an ATPL issued by the UK CAA over the next year - top tip. Tick the box!
And if you're applying for an ATPL issued by the UK CAA over the next year - top tip. Tick the box!
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Why? - you can hold an EASA licence in any country in the world and keep it current as long as you meet the recency requirements.
No problem at all for UK residents flying for UK airlines.
Bearing in mind EASA’s approach, why would anyone in the UK give a monkey’s about another agency’s licence requirements? What do UK citizens have to lose??
Nothing!
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If not deal found (what I ll really find it surprising ... But this Brexit thing seems to be more about politics playing for themselves than really consideration for the people living in the country ...)
So ... If no deal found. I believe like said before, me I have an EASA licence but I m flying in Uk for a UK airline. So I believe Uk CAA will give me a UK licence based on my EASA so I ll have 2 licence. Now when I ll go to the sim to renewed my rating, it will only renewed my UK one, and I ll have on my own money to do the same test with private ATO to renew my EASA rating if I still want to be apply to apply to any EASA country.
But again I will be surprised if UK CAA doesn t stay with the European open SKY.
So ... If no deal found. I believe like said before, me I have an EASA licence but I m flying in Uk for a UK airline. So I believe Uk CAA will give me a UK licence based on my EASA so I ll have 2 licence. Now when I ll go to the sim to renewed my rating, it will only renewed my UK one, and I ll have on my own money to do the same test with private ATO to renew my EASA rating if I still want to be apply to apply to any EASA country.
But again I will be surprised if UK CAA doesn t stay with the European open SKY.
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I think it equally unlikely that no deal will be found, however, the note doesn't say what you think. Yes, the UK might simply hand out licenses for whatever pilots they want to. However, your UK EASA license will be invalid on 30/03/2019. So you will not be able to renew any rating on that license, after all the license is no longer valid at all. However, if you transfer it to another EU country before that date, it will of course remain valid.
If not deal found (what I ll really find it surprising ... But this Brexit thing seems to be more about politics playing for themselves than really consideration for the people living in the country ...)
So ... If no deal found. I believe like said before, me I have an EASA licence but I m flying in Uk for a UK airline. So I believe Uk CAA will give me a UK licence based on my EASA so I ll have 2 licence. Now when I ll go to the sim to renewed my rating, it will only renewed my UK one, and I ll have on my own money to do the same test with private ATO to renew my EASA rating if I still want to be apply to apply to any EASA country.
But again I will be surprised if UK CAA doesn t stay with the European open SKY.
So ... If no deal found. I believe like said before, me I have an EASA licence but I m flying in Uk for a UK airline. So I believe Uk CAA will give me a UK licence based on my EASA so I ll have 2 licence. Now when I ll go to the sim to renewed my rating, it will only renewed my UK one, and I ll have on my own money to do the same test with private ATO to renew my EASA rating if I still want to be apply to apply to any EASA country.
But again I will be surprised if UK CAA doesn t stay with the European open SKY.