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Old 9th Jan 2019, 08:43
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Guidance on paperwork for UK ATPL SOLI transfer

Happy new year to all,
I am seeking for guidance on “paperwork” in order to transfer my UK ATPL into either the NL CAA or the IAA.

for starting the SOLI process the following forms need to be send to the UK CAA:
1.SRG2150 and the fee is £45
2.SRG1202(SOLI) with or without the copies of my last medical ecg/audiogram?
3.SRG1201 for paying the fee of £75 for the SRG1202 SOLI form.
4.Cerified copy of UK ATPL no needed since there is no any entrance to my license by examiner since issued by CAA?
5. do you recommend to send all the above by post?

thank you.
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Old 9th Jan 2019, 08:54
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You seem to have it summed up and are basically asking PPRuNe whether they trust Royal Mail....Is that the question?
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Old 9th Jan 2019, 11:14
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Followers of the Brexit vs UK Aviation Industry saga may be interested in this article about a proposal to extend Type Certificates of UK aircraft by 9 months, ie until the end for 2019. This has been referred to already in this thread, but it gives a slightly different angle.

Interestingly, it seems that the EU Commission/EASA is taking the lead in rescuing the UK from the disaster it has created for itself, probably because the UK CAA as presently constituted and managed couldn't run an FBO in the Outer Hebrides. (I heard a detailed and horrendous tale yesterday about the incompetence, attitude and behaviour of a Surveyor, over the last 2 months. Unfortunately such tales are now commonplace.)

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Old 9th Jan 2019, 14:03
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Mr Fly744,

the forms on the UK side can all be sent by email.

i sent the forms to the IAA by post.

time is very short now, as you are already past the UK CAA deadline to be sure it completes.
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Old 9th Jan 2019, 19:39
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Thanks for the replies guys. Are the forms correct or did I miss something?

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Old 9th Jan 2019, 20:33
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I’ve just spent half an hour or so reading this thread, but would like to see what people’s thoughts are on the following:

1) I’ve not changed my UK licence, and I’ve missed the “suggested deadline” - I’m going to go for it anyway, so has anyone got any insight into which country might scrape it through in time? (Irish sound busy, as Austria have done lots for EasyJet they might be quieter now)

2) if as I suspect I don’t make it in time - will I really have to sit all 14 exams again & do flight training in Europe to get an EASA licence. Or do people think that in time the UK CAA and EASA will create a legal framework to convert licences?

3) how will this work for SFI instructors at places like CAE/FlightSafety in the USA who have UK issues approvals? Will they no longer be able to train and sign off LPC’s for EASA licences? I’m unfamiliar with what qualifications & processes instructors have to go through.

Thanks

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Old 12th Jan 2019, 15:47
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Can somebody please tell me how long they had to wait to get their Paperwork processed by the UK CAA after they received it. Thanks
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Old 13th Jan 2019, 13:35
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Hey hope somebody can clarify something for me, I have a UK ATPL but a Polish class 1 medical, the initial medical I had was a UK one, but for the last 10 years I have been sending the medical exam records myself to the medical department in the UK to have on record. My question is I requested a change of license to the Polish one and sent out form SRG2150 and SRG1202 my doc 155 from Polish is already there, do I still need to send the SOLI to the Polish CAA? Uk caa says

“If you have a current non-UK medical certificate, we require confirmation from the Medical Department of the EASAmember state that issued your initial medical certificate that you have no serious medical problems”

which was the uk and the beginning. Thanks for your help
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Old 13th Jan 2019, 16:00
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License and medical validity in transit

Please excuse if this was posted before.

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I can reassure that under current procedures, there is no break in your licensing continuity as you switch from one to the other - your current licence remains valid until the point at which you have your new licence in your hand - I had this confirmed by the CAA.


I am converting my UK CAA to the Spanish EASA this will take a while, and not completed till after March 29

Just to please reconfirm, by another source someone who has contacted the CAA, that during the conversion process, no invalidity of my medical will occur, due to the process. Of course providing I keep my license up to date. Where is this written if one has the link?
Please confirm that there will be no invalidation.

Thanks a lot in advance.
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Old 13th Jan 2019, 17:19
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Hoffa Rocks View Post

Quote:
I can reassure that under current procedures, there is no break in your licensing continuity as you switch from one to the other - your current licence remains valid until the point at which you have your new licence in your hand - I had this confirmed by the CAA.
Quote is correct !

-You go to AESA and you tell them ... "I have an UK and I want to have a Spanish"
-Forms to be completed, for the AESA, and for the UK CAA
-Fees to be payed
-AESA do the checks that they need to do. AESA will contact the UK CAA, and the UK CAA will provide the info about your UK licence to AESA.
-when happy all is OK, AESA will tell you, give me your UK licence, and I give you a Spanish licence

It has to be this way because you can not have 2 EASA licences. You surrender the one that you have, and receive another one.

Don't understand what you mean by: "Please confirm that there will be no invalidation."
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 00:11
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Mr Hoffa

I am converting my UK CAA to the Spanish EASA this will take a while, and not completed till after March 29
It has to complete by 29 March, or it doesn’t complete at all (unless the Brexit is delayed of course)
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 07:24
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probably because the UK CAA as presently constituted and managed couldn't run an FBO in the Outer Hebrides.
Funny but unfortunately true
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Old 16th Jan 2019, 08:27
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So, post Parlimentary vote last night and about 40 sitting days before March 29th, what are the bets on current anticipated arrangements for:
  • EASA recognising UK certificates for nine months after March 29th?
  • Issues with UK carrier ownership being sub-50% EU27 shares?
  • Removal of 5th Freedom rights (and sixth, seventh etc.)?
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Old 16th Jan 2019, 08:44
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Looking for some advice on what to do. Currently I have 1st class medical from the UK that expires in February. I am looking to start my PPL/CPL flight training in Poland.

Would it be better to just wait until the UK medical expires and re do a first class initial medical in Poland and get all my license's from there or is there another process I must go through? Any advice here is greatly appreciated.
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Old 16th Jan 2019, 09:00
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My understanding is that you cannot undergo a second initial class 1 if you have at any time held a class 1. Even after Brexit you will have held an EASA class 1 so you cant redo an initial. You can renew. Transferring your medical before Brexit is straight forward. Allowing it to lapse and then trying to renew based on records from a non EASA country, in a country that often has its own interpretation of EU law, seems full of risk. So I would renew before 29 March. Whether you do so in Poland or the UK depends on whether you think Poland offers any advantages to you.
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Old 17th Jan 2019, 08:32
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Looking for some advice here with people in a similar situation. I have a class 1 medical from the UK that expires soon but I haven't as of yet started any flight training. I'm looking to do all my training in Poland. Would it be wiser to switch to a polish medical and get a polish license rather than a UK one despite the fact I come from the UK ?
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Old 17th Jan 2019, 09:00
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Just a reminder of the EU Preparedness Notices on Air Transport and Aviation Safety:

https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info...ansport_en.pdf

https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info..._safety_en.pdf

Pretty grim reading once it sinks in.

We either leave EASA on the 29th March at 11:00pm as things stand, or we leave EASA at the end of a transition period - subject to whether we ever reach a concensus on a Withdrawal Agreement.

'Brace, Brace, Brace...'
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Old 17th Jan 2019, 09:25
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It is logic, nothing else could be expected. For me it is unbelievable that people in UK don't know it before vote or in government ,parliament these days???
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Old 18th Jan 2019, 13:53
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I expect most of you already have international driving licenses but I saw an article that said you might also need a green card in Europe in the event of no-deal.
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Old 18th Jan 2019, 14:47
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Originally Posted by asmith474 View Post
Looking for some advice here with people in a similar situation. I have a class 1 medical from the UK that expires soon but I haven't as of yet started any flight training. I'm looking to do all my training in Poland. Would it be wiser to switch to a polish medical and get a polish license rather than a UK one despite the fact I come from the UK ?
It depends who you want to issue your license. You could still go to Poland and sit the skills test with a UK CAA examiner. Or you can transfer your records to Poland and get a Polish license. I had my initial Class 1 in Poland and transferred it here to the UK and I will have a UK issued license when I'm finished.

I must add the process was a bit of a ball ache. Not many people in Poland speak English and you should bare this in mind if you have any issues and have to communicate with the Polish CAA.
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