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No one is saying that UK aircraft would not be able to overfly European airspace. What they are saying is that UK aircraft will not be able to do domestic EU traffic or Eu-rest of the world traffic. Similarly EU airlines will not be able to do UK domestic traffic. Additionally all EU airlines need to be owned AND controlled by Eu nationals (easyjet? IAG?...) and Uk airlines will need to be UK owned AND controlled to take part in a new UK/US bilateral agreement (BA? Virgin?....)
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cant think of many airlines with a greater than 50% uk market share these days, Jet2?Thompson, owned by ze germans. City Flyer, ba, owned by IAG. vs mainly owned by delta although air france also have a big bite.
Jet 2 and flybe, stobart, are possibly the only ones i can think of.
Jet 2 and flybe, stobart, are possibly the only ones i can think of.
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Going back to CAP371 please no. What about the factoring of FDP for 2 crew sectors over 7 hours (let's bring back flight engineers). O and the acclimatisation rules where you immediately non acclimatise if over 3 hours TZ when the science in EASA says you gradually adapt. And the early / late / night rules which cause poor rostering patterns when the science says its better to stay in the pattern.
And a crew reporting at 0550LT on CAP371 3 sectors get a 09:30 allowable FDP whereas EASA 12.15 (which was similar to Sub Part Q which was in Europe for god knows how long so all Euro Airlines crews managed before)
And then let's remember EASA has FRMS which then obliges crew members to look at commuting that area which under CAP371 wasn't considered as the last edition was what 2004?
I'm sure the Directors at Thomson / Thomas Cook / DHL Air would love to go back to CAP371 so they could be (safely) out performed by their Euro counterparts.
Yep for sure EASA FTL could do with a few tweaks but please not CAP371 - Douglas Bader is long gone
And a crew reporting at 0550LT on CAP371 3 sectors get a 09:30 allowable FDP whereas EASA 12.15 (which was similar to Sub Part Q which was in Europe for god knows how long so all Euro Airlines crews managed before)
And then let's remember EASA has FRMS which then obliges crew members to look at commuting that area which under CAP371 wasn't considered as the last edition was what 2004?
I'm sure the Directors at Thomson / Thomas Cook / DHL Air would love to go back to CAP371 so they could be (safely) out performed by their Euro counterparts.
Yep for sure EASA FTL could do with a few tweaks but please not CAP371 - Douglas Bader is long gone
Iceland, Switzerland and Norway are, in EASA-speak, three of the 34 "Countries with whom EASA has a Working Arrangement". That will likely be the destiny of the UK.
There are no references at all to Croatia or Liechtenstein on the EASA website.
Countries with whom EASA has a Working Arrangement
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And a crew reporting at 0550LT on CAP371 3 sectors get a 09:30 allowable FDP whereas EASA 12.15 (which was similar to Sub Part Q which was in Europe for god knows how long so all Euro Airlines crews managed before)
As you move eastwards, local time becomes earlier on your body clock. That’s particularly significant for those states on the most western limits of EASA land. Here’s an example:
There is a BA flight leaving HEL at 0745LT every morning. It’s crew arrived in their hotel some time the night before. Their duty period officially started one hour before departure, at 0645LT. However, they are picked up at 0620LT. In order to achieve that, they will wake at around 0550LT. (If they’ve been able to sleep?)
However, HEL is UK time + 2 hours. So 0550LT is actually 0350 on their body clock. If they ‘only’ fly 3 sectors, they can officially still be on duty 12:30 after their on duty time!
So they woke at 0350 on their body clock, at the worst possible time to be awake, and they can still be on duty at 1715 on their body clock. Having flown in to LHR, then who knows, maybe ATH and back. Even in the depths of winter!
That to me looks very stupid! CAP 371 looks far more sensible, when allowing for the difference between LT and body clock time!
HEL is not the only place this happens, and of course LT could actually be even further away from body clock time, and still not be considered!!
All perfectly legal under EASA.
No, it doesn't.
Iceland, Switzerland and Norway are, in EASA-speak, three of the 34 "Countries with whom EASA has a Working Arrangement". That will likely be the destiny of the UK.
There are no references at all to Croatia or Liechtenstein on the EASA website.
Countries with whom EASA has a Working Arrangement
Iceland, Switzerland and Norway are, in EASA-speak, three of the 34 "Countries with whom EASA has a Working Arrangement". That will likely be the destiny of the UK.
There are no references at all to Croatia or Liechtenstein on the EASA website.
Countries with whom EASA has a Working Arrangement
As rudestuff says, this page:
https://www.easa.europa.eu/easa-and-...asa-by-country
shows the relationship(s) EASA has with each state, and lists Iceland, Switzerland, Norway, Croatia and Liechtenstein as Member countries.
https://www.easa.europa.eu/easa-and-...asa-by-country
shows the relationship(s) EASA has with each state, and lists Iceland, Switzerland, Norway, Croatia and Liechtenstein as Member countries.
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Not true on Long Haul I’m afraid where the inability for the company to roster duties back to back and requirement for a set number of local nights” prior to commencing another duty has led to a greater manpower requirement not a lesser one.
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There are no references at all to Croatia or Liechtenstein on the EASA website.
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Air France are recruiting 200 pilots but it is a pre-requisite that you have to be a french national to apply and if you don’t have a relative already working there you will not be offered a job- as told to me by my French co-pilot.
There really is no hope when this level of nepotism and nationalism is standard at a flag carrier.
There really is no hope when this level of nepotism and nationalism is standard at a flag carrier.
but eh you're funny : to work at BA you need to get a level 6 in english. Who can apply there except british ?
no need to be french, many belgians fly at AF. Just need to speak french.
a french...
