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Lufthansa Shuts Down Super Star Project March 15, 2018

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Lufthansa Shuts Down Super Star Project March 15, 2018

Old 14th May 2020, 20:16
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People are understandably drawn to the fancy technology and it sure has a proper place. It's just that the technology has no place in a piece of living history like this airplane.

What's next...a touch-screen F/E panel ?
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Old 14th May 2020, 20:40
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Touch-screens do not belong in a cockpit, but that's just my opinion
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Old 14th May 2020, 20:51
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Originally Posted by bafanguy View Post
WARNING-unpopular opinion to follow:
It's approaching heresy to put modern cockpit technology in a rare classic airplane like this one. It should be restored to original cockpit instrumentation ( or as closely as parts availability allows).
What else ? Fabric-covered cabling that's not fireproof ? Instruments each with a MTBF of 10 hours ?
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Old 14th May 2020, 20:54
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When I flew the mighty Douglas DC 6 I used to say I had "glass cockpit" time because if could monitor the engine health on the 6 inch round CRT oscilloscope engine analyzer.
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Old 14th May 2020, 21:02
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They had wanted to install something like a C-130J cockpit to comply with RVSM airspace requirements.
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Old 14th May 2020, 21:29
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They had wanted to install something like a C-130J cockpit to comply with RVSM airspace requirements.
not quite . RVSM airspace and requirements starts at FL290 .. The 1649A , was only certified to 24.000 ft max when carrying pax, .
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Old 14th May 2020, 22:26
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Originally Posted by Big Pistons Forever View Post
When I flew the mighty Douglas DC 6 I used to say I had "glass cockpit" time because if could monitor the engine health on the 6 inch round CRT oscilloscope engine analyzer.
Was that on the right side behind the pilots? It's been a long time. I remember watching those stacks glow cherry red from a pax seat on a night takeoff.
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Old 14th May 2020, 22:53
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Originally Posted by Airbubba View Post
Was that on the right side behind the pilots? It's been a long time.
'bubba,

The DC6s I flew had the engine analyzer in the radio rack behind the captain's seat...the F/E could easily see it from his seat with a twist to his left.

Those were the days.
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Old 14th May 2020, 23:40
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Originally Posted by bafanguy View Post
'bubba,

The DC6s I flew had the engine analyzer in the radio rack behind the captain's seat...the F/E could easily see it from his seat with a twist to his left.

Those were the days.
Yup, I was lucky enough to get in at the very end of the era when the big pistons were still operating. The DC 6 is still my all time favorite airplane
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Old 15th May 2020, 14:43
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The engine analyser on the Connies was to the left of the FE panel behind the F.O seat as I recall? Never flew theCoonie as an FE as I was not smart enough. I did fly the 1049H as an F/O at FTL. Also flew the DC6B at another airline. Pretty sure I could sill start the R2800 without a backfire
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Old 15th May 2020, 21:32
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In the days when I used to travel (ie, two months ago) there used to be a Connie on static display - with a DC3 and a JU52 - at Munich airport. Anyone know if it's still there? It appears to be on Google Earth but I've not seen reference to it in this thread.


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Old 16th May 2020, 07:12
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Yes, they are still there, they are part of the visitor centre with viewing area on the hill, etc.. I am not sure if it is open to the public at this time.
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Old 16th May 2020, 11:48
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Originally Posted by BEA 71 View Post
Yes, they are still there, they are part of the visitor centre with viewing area on the hill, etc.. I am not sure if it is open to the public at this time.
It's closed until further notice.
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Old 16th May 2020, 15:56
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Originally Posted by Spooky 2 View Post
Pretty sure I could sill start the R2800 without a backfire
There are 2 kinds of pilots starting R2800's, Those who have had a backfire on start....and those who will.

However I believe the Starliner has the same fuel injected Wright 3350 as the DC7. Those engines were amazingly easy to start. I watch a crew get all 4 going in about 30 seconds.
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Old 17th May 2020, 10:17
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Lufthansa's Super Star engines including spare had already been perfectly overhauled. They were ready and good to go. The best part of the venture so to say.
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