American Airline plane catches fire on runway at Chek Lap Kok
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I assume the guy that dropped from height was the one up top supervising the loading. Must have gotten rather warm rather quickly where he was, and I don't think there's any other way down from there. Interesting question for the Safely Elf to ponder because that could happen anywhere.
Well it would seem that I am the only one uncomfortable with the fire services response time. Guess I have the lower my expectations on that front...
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It is a long way down from up there. Spent many years loading wide bodies and those high loaders take a lot of strain. I would not be surprised if it was a hydraulic hose that came loose, but that is purely a guess on my part
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Cargo load, NOT airplane!!
I have no idea what was on that cargo pallet, but sure wanted to burn. Another big loaf of Li Io batteries?/ We don't know.
With the horrible history of these things, ship them by sea - and even then, with extreme precautions, I do not want them as cargo on MY pax FLIGHT, EVER.
With the horrible history of these things, ship them by sea - and even then, with extreme precautions, I do not want them as cargo on MY pax FLIGHT, EVER.
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There is extendable ladder (yellow in photo) built into the fwd side of the cargo loader to access the upper platform. Loader controls/operator would normally be there. When a loader or aircraft load systems are not working 100% there may be more than on worker on the upper platform assisting. Negotiating their way down quickly during a fire event could have led to a fall.
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must have gone up fast - the loading guys are still standing/sitting right next to it........
I was wondering something similar. That would suggest a long WTF startle factor moment, or.......it's n to my job. In all major airports I've bene to those little tow buggy thingies all had fire-extinguishers on them/ I assume there low-loader also. If so I would expect the operators to have been trained to use them, but no-one seems to be 'jumping to it.' More training, Captain Mannering.
I was wondering something similar. That would suggest a long WTF startle factor moment, or.......it's n to my job. In all major airports I've bene to those little tow buggy thingies all had fire-extinguishers on them/ I assume there low-loader also. If so I would expect the operators to have been trained to use them, but no-one seems to be 'jumping to it.' More training, Captain Mannering.
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No chance of lithium batteries on your pax flight in cargo as they are forbidden for carriage on pax flights, lots of plastic & carboard on most pallets so that's what is probably causing most of the fire.
Didn't something similar happen under an Aer Lingus A330 in MCO lost year? Hydralic line ruptured on the loader, fluid ignited? IIRC 2 ground handlers suffered absolutely horrific burns in that one...
It would be revealing to find out how much fire training ramp service people get. Probably none at all. Fire extinguishers on ground vehicles may be there but without training might as well not be.
Yes it did, not only did the ground handlers suffer horrific burns I believe one also broke his leg (or legs!) jumping from the aft cargo bay.
Hard to watch how the colleagues dragged the poor guy with probably broken legs over the tarmac to a location under the wing. The other bystanders did not seem to be concerned at all. With such a fire the place under the wing would be the worst place to be. What will those guys do in a more demanding emergency?
Hard to watch how the colleagues dragged the poor guy with probably broken legs over the tarmac to a location under the wing. The other bystanders did not seem to be concerned at all. With such a fire the place under the wing would be the worst place to be. What will those guys do in a more demanding emergency?
I have been out in the middle of JFK field in my own personal car (no radio) attending to a B747 freighter emergency that was sitting on 16 flat tires. With all the plane traffic around me I decided to just park my car under a wing to be sure I was not interfering in traffic
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