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Old 6th Jan 2017, 17:23
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Shooting at FLL Terminal 2

Reports of several people shot at Terminal 2 at Ft. Lauderdale, Florida airport.

Tweet from former Presidential Press Secretary Ari Fleischer:

Ari Fleischer ‏@AriFleischer 27m
27 minutes ago

I'm at the Ft. Lauderdale Airport. Shots have been fired. Everyone is running.
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Gunman Opens Fire at Fort Lauderdale Airport, Killing 1 - NBC News
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CBS now reporting 3 people are dead. CNN reported shooter "in custody" though CBS says status of shooter is unknown.
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Too close for comfort.
Wife flying in to KFLL, with luggage.
(This happened in baggage claim)

Sad day for those shot, and for their relatives.
Curious if this is another peaceful Muslim with a gun, or a regular nutcase with a gun?
Either way, too many guns being sold to mental cases in this country.
(I know, the NRA says everybody should be armed so the gunman could have been taken out right away.)

Now we will get screening before entering baggage claim.
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Now we will get screening before entering baggage claim.
Strangely enough, meeting my son at LAS (whilst there on vacation myself) in November, I remarked to my wife how anyone had free access to the arrival area and baggage belts for domestic flights.
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BBC reporting 5 dead and 1 person in custody.

Fort Lauderdale airport shooting: Multiple people shot dead by Florida gunman - BBC News
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Now we will get screening before entering baggage claim.
I do not see how he got to baggage claim without being screened -you can't normally get to baggage reclaim unless you have travelled and he should have been screened before boarding. The only other way is to be staff and they should still be screened.
The next question is, did he have the arms IN his checked baggage and access them when he picked up his bags?
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Well CNN has it live as it develops and it is informative to see how people there are reacting. I have no intention of being judgmental but at this same time it's learning point.

Hundreds of people are swarming in panic mode back and forth between terminals, parking buildings and airport tarmacs reacting to running armed officers attempting to run back and forth in sweeps of areas. It reminds me of sheep reacting to sheep dogs moving in a controlled manner, but at the same time the sheep are being driven by fear.
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FLL terminal 1 now evacuated, reports of one shooting victim there...

Now the casualty is reported as a dog bite victim near the Southwest counter.
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Baggage Claim is pre-screening, so anyone can enter this area. The doors open to the street, so it is possible.
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there is no security for the baggage reclaim on domestic flights; meeters and greeters can join travellers there.
That's true for all the domestic flights I've taken in the US and Canada. Prior to 9/11, you could meet people at the gate.
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Miami-Dade bringing additional SWAT assets by helo, a new phone call claiming shots fired at the JetBlue counter, Terminal 3.

Senator Bill Nelson identifies the suspect in custody as Esteban Santiago. Reports say Santiago was wearing a Star Wars t-shirt.
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The shooting occurred in the Terminal 2 Delta/Air Canada baggage claim. The alleged shooter, 26 yr old, Esteban Santiago, now is in custody He had a military ID. There are conflicting stories as to how he arrived at baggage claim with a weapon. One eye witness said he walked in through the doors next to Starbucks and started shooting. Another story had him arriving on an Air Canada flight, the weapon being in his checked luggage that he recovered in the men's lavatory and came out shooting. The airport operation has been suspended and the scene is still considered an active crime scene, opening of the airport is uncertain at this time.
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Another story had him arriving on an Air Canada flight, the weapon being in his checked luggage that he recovered in the men's lavatory and came out shooting.
And he could legally put the weapon in his checked baggage on an international flight and then retrieve it on arrival in baggage claim without passing security.

From a @CP24 tweet:

A spokesman for Air Canada says all its passengers/employees at Fort Lauderdale airport are "accounted for & safe'' following mass shooting
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Air Canada have said no one by that name was on any of their flights.
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And he could legally put the weapon in his checked baggage on an international flight and then retrieve it on arrival in baggage claim without passing security.
It may not have been an international flight, per-se. It was a domestic airline flight out of Alaska. Also, you do not have to pass through security to retrieve a checked hand gun. To be able to check the hand gun, you have to declare it, you have to prove it belongs to you, that you have license to carry it both at the departure site (Alaska) and arrival site (Florida) and of course proper personal identification. The gun must be in a approved locked case to which he had the only access to. Apparently, Santiago met all the legal requirements.
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Handguns are banned in Canada....thus for the Killer to have brought one into the USA from Canada seems awfully suspect. How many events of smuggling would be required to evade all Security Measures and Guns Laws in Canada to make that happen.

Owing to the lack of Security Measures at a Domestic Baggage Claim in US Airports....very big odds the firearm was brought in from the local area by the Killer.

We shall soon learn this is a Self Radicalized Individual who was resident in the USA.....I am willing to bet.

Anyone care to bet the Firearm was legally purchased or was a Straw Man purchase and was bought in the USA recently.
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Self radicalised? Have you considered it might not be terrorism?

Honourably discharged from military 4 months ago. Christian church goer. Big Disney fan.

More likely (yet) another nut job with a gun in the land where one toddler per week shoots someone.

Likely Facebook profile here http://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000492021832https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000492021832
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That must be a very violent Toddler that shoots someone every week!
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"Curious if this is another peaceful Muslim with a gun"

5% chance

"or a regular nutcase with a gun"

95% chance.
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