Air Transat pilots "impaired through alcohol".
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Air Transat pilots "impaired through alcohol".
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Hauled from the cockpit! Dramatic!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/drunk-pilots-hauled-cockpit-police-8446173
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I am hearing from an EZ based Captain that was on stand at the time of the incident, that the First Officer was wearing some kind of a cape, possibly what could have drawn attention to them in the first instance.
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Due to appear in Paisley sheriff's court Tuesday morning.
One option is to be bailed to a later date.
One option is to be bailed to a later date.
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They've been locked up.
Are those alcohol figures in #6 accurate? I would have thought that you'd get about that much by eating a tin of pineapple chunks or some over ripe mangoes.
Are those alcohol figures in #6 accurate? I would have thought that you'd get about that much by eating a tin of pineapple chunks or some over ripe mangoes.
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The figures are correct. Realistically the alcohol level you would have in your blood after an hour after consuming a single glass of wine with a meal, half a pint of beer, or a single shot of spirits. Perhaps five pints of beer, the best part of a couple of bottles of wine, or a quarter to a third of a bottle of spirits consumed and drinking stopped eight hours before the flight. So a pretty good night before.
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The alcohol figures are correct and apply to me as a UK ATCO too.
Also,
The alcohol limit for drivers in Scotland is different than for the rest of the UK. In December 2014 the limit was reduced to 50 milligrams of alcohol in every 100 millilitres of blood4. The breath alcohol equivalent reduced to 22 micrograms of alcohol per 100 millilitres of breath
Also,
The alcohol limit for drivers in Scotland is different than for the rest of the UK. In December 2014 the limit was reduced to 50 milligrams of alcohol in every 100 millilitres of blood4. The breath alcohol equivalent reduced to 22 micrograms of alcohol per 100 millilitres of breath
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GOULI,
and others.
Given that I have the "pleasure " (sorry, lets call it "insurance") to work for a company that has an alcohol test mandated before commencing EVERY duty (due to a major "indiscretion" by "ex" colleagues last year ) lets try to get some figures straight here.
A Bottle (750ml ) of wine at 14.5% takes 10.9 hrs to eliminate from the body from 1st sip (regardless of other factors such as BMI/ weight/ sex or whatever. Poncy French wine "@ 12% only needs 9hr. A 500ml glass of Beer at 6% = 3hr.
Don't drink spirits, so I haven't done the Maths, but, I do the calculations on a fairly regular basis for the Vino Collapso, as I like to drink it , & don't wanna get busted/sacked. . . all you need to know is "out there" on t'internet, use & respect to enjoy both your tipple & your job
Use this, timing from 1st sip, to keep your conscience clear & your licence intact http://www.cleavebooks.co.uk/scol/ccalcoh2.htm
and others.
Given that I have the "pleasure " (sorry, lets call it "insurance") to work for a company that has an alcohol test mandated before commencing EVERY duty (due to a major "indiscretion" by "ex" colleagues last year ) lets try to get some figures straight here.
A Bottle (750ml ) of wine at 14.5% takes 10.9 hrs to eliminate from the body from 1st sip (regardless of other factors such as BMI/ weight/ sex or whatever. Poncy French wine "@ 12% only needs 9hr. A 500ml glass of Beer at 6% = 3hr.
Don't drink spirits, so I haven't done the Maths, but, I do the calculations on a fairly regular basis for the Vino Collapso, as I like to drink it , & don't wanna get busted/sacked. . . all you need to know is "out there" on t'internet, use & respect to enjoy both your tipple & your job
Use this, timing from 1st sip, to keep your conscience clear & your licence intact http://www.cleavebooks.co.uk/scol/ccalcoh2.htm
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Flyers face court charge...Booze rap pilots' 'threats and abuse'
TWO pilots who allegedly tried to fly a plane while drunk are also accused of threats and abuse, it emerged yesterday
Captain Jean-Francois Perreault and first officer Imran Zafar Syed were arrested minutes before their Air Transat flight to Canada was due to take off at Glasgow Airport.
Perreault, 39, of Ontario, and Syed, 37, from Toronto, appeared in private at Paisley Sheriff Court to face charges of performing an aviation function while over the limit yesterday. But both pilots were also accused of acting in a threatening or abusive manner likely to cause fear and alarm.
Neither made a plea or declaration at the hearing before Sheriff Susan Sinclair, who committed the case for further examination until they appear again next week.
TWO pilots who allegedly tried to fly a plane while drunk are also accused of threats and abuse, it emerged yesterday
Captain Jean-Francois Perreault and first officer Imran Zafar Syed were arrested minutes before their Air Transat flight to Canada was due to take off at Glasgow Airport.
Perreault, 39, of Ontario, and Syed, 37, from Toronto, appeared in private at Paisley Sheriff Court to face charges of performing an aviation function while over the limit yesterday. But both pilots were also accused of acting in a threatening or abusive manner likely to cause fear and alarm.
Neither made a plea or declaration at the hearing before Sheriff Susan Sinclair, who committed the case for further examination until they appear again next week.
We had a Brit contract ground engineer in Asia well over a decade ago who was sacked after having a pint at lunchtime and coming back to work. He was previously warned but insisted that he was legal to service aircraft under the local regs. We're under FAA and company rules of below .02%/.04% BAC and 8 hours but I'm wondering if he thought he was exempt under some legacy 'session ale' rule from the UK.
Yes, a pint or two over lunch in the UK was / is not that unusual, but even if you are under the limit if you've been previously warned not to do it why is it that important to you you'd risk your job ?
Seems like you have a problem, two now..
Seems like you have a problem, two now..
de minimus non curat lex
Second appearance in Court today
Bail has been granted subject to them surrendering their passports.
Besides the alcohol charge, they were also charged with threatening behaviour. This second charge has now been removed / dropped.
Besides the alcohol charge, they were also charged with threatening behaviour. This second charge has now been removed / dropped.
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Air Transat drink charge pilots released on bail - BBC News
"They also initially faced a charge of threatening and abusive behaviour which has since been dropped from the petition."
"They also initially faced a charge of threatening and abusive behaviour which has since been dropped from the petition."