Sonic Boom's Over West Yorkshire UK
...was asked by Maastricht if we would agree to be intercepted for training purposes. Sure we were. Flying at FL470 with Mach 0.92 at that time.
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I don't think the RJ would have caused them any problems. 
Heard the commotion as well, I personally always monitor guard, but I know many who turn it down or off especially over the UK. Constant chatter with practice and location fixes etc. I know there's no better way to train than to do, but it becomes a massive distraction. Why not assign a freq for practicing?
Heard the commotion as well, I personally always monitor guard, but I know many who turn it down or off especially over the UK. Constant chatter with practice and location fixes etc. I know there's no better way to train than to do, but it becomes a massive distraction. Why not assign a freq for practicing?
"Lost Comms" is one of the identified attack profiles for a hijacked aeroplane on a suicide mission. If you ever feel you want some company while flying on a lonely night just enter UK controlled airspace with no comms. You'll get a couple of instant buddies with a brace of white missiles to chat with...
Whatever happened to a realistic Risk Assessment ?
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Well there was more than enough time to scramble and intercept the 9-11 jets. They were either in the wrong are, sent in the wrong direction or wasting time getting approval to take the necessary action.
The RAF did exactly what they should be and that this protecting the country. This is how you keep people safe, not bombing the Middle East to within an inch of its life. Having jets ready, armed and with the appropriate authority to do what's needed is far safer.
I do wonder what went wrong. Lots of frequency changes as you head north, the requirement to descend early to be FL280 by a certain point. Switching to Scottish. Not to mention the sound of others on frequency.
The RAF did exactly what they should be and that this protecting the country. This is how you keep people safe, not bombing the Middle East to within an inch of its life. Having jets ready, armed and with the appropriate authority to do what's needed is far safer.
I do wonder what went wrong. Lots of frequency changes as you head north, the requirement to descend early to be FL280 by a certain point. Switching to Scottish. Not to mention the sound of others on frequency.
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This is not the first time loss of comm and fighter jet intercept.
I have a feeling in post MH370 world supersonic intercept will be a norm if plane heading out to open seas, assuming country has quick/rapid action force and mid-air refueling capabilities. If I recall similar incident happened over France last year.
Even though MH370 presumed to crisscross the nation and almost over an airbase, they couldn't intercept because it had very few active all weather, mid air refuel capable fighter jets, and they were on the other side of the country.
Why so much media coverage. Contemplating between Brexit preparedness (or) Gripen vs Typhoon marketing.
I have a feeling in post MH370 world supersonic intercept will be a norm if plane heading out to open seas, assuming country has quick/rapid action force and mid-air refueling capabilities. If I recall similar incident happened over France last year.
Even though MH370 presumed to crisscross the nation and almost over an airbase, they couldn't intercept because it had very few active all weather, mid air refuel capable fighter jets, and they were on the other side of the country.
Why so much media coverage. Contemplating between Brexit preparedness (or) Gripen vs Typhoon marketing.
Although an Air France flight number, this flight is actually operated by our old friends from London City, CityJet, with an RJ85. Aircraft EI-RJC on the flight in question, I believe. Well, I presume the RAF never got close enough to report the airline livery. And it was dark by then as well.
I wasn't familiar with the term QRA and ran across this excellent television piece on the mission:
https://youtu.be/3hijzP1zzLI
https://youtu.be/3hijzP1zzLI
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"The 'Q' in 'QRA' does not stand for 'Quiet'!"
Years ago there were charted VFR low level military training routes in the U.S. that had the designation 'Oil Burner'. The Arab oil embargo in 1973 came along and the media activists (embedded as journalists) highlighted these OB routes as an example of environmental and economic insensitivity by the mean uncaring Pentagon war machine.
To assuage the desires of these 'whistleblowers' the training routes were renamed Olive Branch Routes. Nobody could oppose peace, right?
Military Jet Noise - The Sound of Freedom.
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Royal Flights have one of the highest air traffic priorities with their own airspace zone. There is one higher, guess which one.
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"The 'Q' in 'QRA' does not stand for 'Quiet'!"
The UK's a bit small and the Fylingdales restricted area is even smaller, and embedded in the open FIR. Plenty of stuff goes around it at medium/low level and even over it at high level every day.
I suspect if QRA scrambled for every single non-communicating aircraft that got near the restricted area they'd be kept somewhat busy.
It's even rumoured that over the years more than one solo student, slightly uncertain of position may have got a bit closer than they should done....
I suspect if QRA scrambled for every single non-communicating aircraft that got near the restricted area they'd be kept somewhat busy.
It's even rumoured that over the years more than one solo student, slightly uncertain of position may have got a bit closer than they should done....
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