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Old 29th Mar 2016, 10:13
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 10:38
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"Aviation expert David Learmont tells the BBC that the pilot should not have followed the hijacker's instructions.
Was Mr Learmont on the flight then?
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 10:41
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Latest report says that there are 3 pax & 4 crew still on board & that highjacker is demanding release of some (female?) prisoners in Egypt!
Concerning David Learmont's strange remarks - surely he's aware of the drug smugglers who involved catering truck staff & ground staff in a drug smuggling operation, where drugs were hidden under rear seats by ground staff & taken in & out of airside areas by catering staff, as security was not so stringent for them. That may well be how the bomb was placed on board at Sharm, & you could never assume it couldn't happen in the current situation.
As a retired Capt., I think I would have reacted the same way as the Egypt Air Capt. in that situation. Nowadays, especially operating out of some countries, you just can't be sure.
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 10:58
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I note the deplaning passengers (hostages) were taking their hand baggage with them. Perhaps the hijacker told them to do so, or is it conceivable we are witnessing another example of an emergency situation of 'hand luggage' evacuees where passengers simply don't let it go?
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 11:16
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well he might ransack their luggage looking for their duty frees...................
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 11:33
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I note the deplaning passengers (hostages) were taking their hand baggage with them. Perhaps the hijacker told them to do so, or is it conceivable we are witnessing another example of an emergency situation of 'hand luggage' evacuees where passengers simply don't let it go?
Unless instructed not to by the hijacker why the hell wouldn't you take your hand luggage?

Is it stated anywhere that you shouldn't?
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 11:37
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It now appears that one of the F/D crew has escaped out of the cockpit window.

Edit:

The hijacker has been arrested.
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 11:46
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Maybe the hijacker have his reasons to do this act... living in Egypt nowadays is awful, overall if you're an intelectual guy...

PS: I don't support the kidnapper, don't worry
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 11:48
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All over. Arrest made. Call off the dogs, and all the instant experts who have pontificated this morning.
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 12:04
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One of UK national papers has a photos of the hijacker posing with his "suicide vest".
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 12:20
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With regards to David Learmont's comments...

Are they as complete rubbish as I think they are?

Surely if the Cabin Crew tell the Captain that someone has an explosive vest on then as the Captain you would have to trust the Cabin Crew's competency and take the threat seriously (i.e. do what the hijacker wants?).

Presumably, the Captain would never even see the hijacker?

And try telling relatives of victims of Metrojet that it's "impossible" to get explosives onto a plane...
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 13:01
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Assuming the flight deck wasn't compromised, it was probably better to obey the terrorists instructions and land at LCA rather than risk the chance of his explosive belt being the real deal and blowing up the aircraft mid air.
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 13:06
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One of UK national papers has a photos of the hijacker posing with his "suicide vest".
This?
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 14:11
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Well trained crew, well done. Great work!
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 14:55
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I assume he asked the crew to take the photo for him?!
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 15:18
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Originally Posted by stiglet
That's all right then ... whatever the reason it's a hijack and the consequences should be the same.

Wasn't there a situation in the UK (Stansted I believe a number of years ago) where the hijackers were eventually given leave to remain. Utter lunacy.

If I understand it correctly this man was in the FD; anyone clarify that? If that's right how on earth did that happen?

For Egyptian aviation to survive this man will need to be made an example of - I do not foresee a happy end for him.
Yes and it is beyond lunacy. The hijacker works at the airport now as a cleaner.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_A...hijackers_case

Revealed: Afghan plane hijacker is now working as a cleaner at Heathrow | Daily Mail Online
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 16:48
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Perhaps the BBC did not report all that David Learmount said:-
Learmount.com | For pilots, cabin crew, ATCOs and all supporting trades
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 17:50
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Originally Posted by Bergerie1
Perhaps the BBC did not report all that David Learmount said
That's putting it mildly.

The remarks attributed to DL (to which a number of posters rightly took exception) were almost the complete opposite of what he actually said, and the BBC has now withdrawn its misinterpretation.
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 17:56
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David is not known for spouting rubbish, quite the contrary..
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 18:05
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Who exactly is this David Learmont.

His name crops up on a regular basis. What are his credentials? His background?

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