Explosions at Brussels Airport
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Guess who has been arrested 2 days ago.
This is the reply of these insane criminals. We can increase the level of security until we stop the aeroplanes on the tarmac, never will change and we will never reach 100% of security.
This is the reply of these insane criminals. We can increase the level of security until we stop the aeroplanes on the tarmac, never will change and we will never reach 100% of security.
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If I'm honest I'd expect CDG to be on high alert anyway. It shouldn't take an attack a few hundred miles away for them to increase it in CDG knowing that France is a major target and CDG is a massive hub.
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Not to belittle from the fact that innocent soles have died and been injured, god help them all and their relatives and friends.
But there is nothing we can tell about the size of the explosion from the photos shown above. The vast majority of the debris I see are ceiling tiles, these only weigh a few ounces each and are not fixed, they simply lift and slide out for easy access. A very large percussive firework could unseat and bring down many tiles. Other more substantial items, like departure boards seem largely unaffected.
Not that I am saying the explosion wasn't large, just that the pictures themselves don't prove it.
But there is nothing we can tell about the size of the explosion from the photos shown above. The vast majority of the debris I see are ceiling tiles, these only weigh a few ounces each and are not fixed, they simply lift and slide out for easy access. A very large percussive firework could unseat and bring down many tiles. Other more substantial items, like departure boards seem largely unaffected.
Not that I am saying the explosion wasn't large, just that the pictures themselves don't prove it.
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Urgent implementation at each major airport needed
Armed police officers and sniffer dogs at each airport entrance please, at least it will help a bit as a deterrant. Airports are nevralgic centres for entire countries. What happened in BRU is extremely easy to repeat, we have to learn to live as they do in Israel and be more pro active and extremely vigilant.
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One easy measure though not foolproof is to prevent anyone other than passengers entering airport terminals. It's done in India,
Just buy a ticket.
Just buy a ticket.
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Armed police officers and sniffer dogs at each airport entrance please, at least it will help a bit as a deterrant. Airports are nevralgic centres for entire countries. What happened in BRU is extremely easy to repeat, we have to learn to live as they do in Israel and be more pro active and extremely vigilant.
No one would ever accept this type of security at a railway station yet they too are targets so why should aviation be treated any differently.
The objective surely is not to just prevent attacks but to permanently 'eradicate' the individuals responsible.
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Not to belittle from the fact that innocent soles have died and been injured, god help them all and their relatives and friends.
But there is nothing we can tell about the size of the explosion from the photos shown above. The vast majority of the debris I see are ceiling tiles, these only weigh a few ounces each and are not fixed, they simply lift and slide out for easy access. A very large percussive firework could unseat and bring down many tiles. Other more substantial items, like departure boards seem largely unaffected.
Not that I am saying the explosion wasn't large, just that the pictures themselves don't prove it.
But there is nothing we can tell about the size of the explosion from the photos shown above. The vast majority of the debris I see are ceiling tiles, these only weigh a few ounces each and are not fixed, they simply lift and slide out for easy access. A very large percussive firework could unseat and bring down many tiles. Other more substantial items, like departure boards seem largely unaffected.
Not that I am saying the explosion wasn't large, just that the pictures themselves don't prove it.
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What was the quote? "The price of eternal vigilance is eternal vigilance"> There is an attack, the security levels go up, we all put up with it for a while then we get antsy, the cost needs to be reduced, the threat level goes down and we all get complacent. I recall a comment from the chief of police somewhere who observed that the terrorist only had to get lucky once, they had to be lucky all the time.
As the news headlines roll on my thoughts are with those who are directly affected, but also with those who have to deal with it, the police, fire and ambulance crews who are first into those blast sites and who are searching for other potential devices, and also for the intelligence services and the security staff who will be haunted for years to come with the doubt that they may have missed something that would have prevented it.
I never complain about security at airports and other terminus, because I know it is there for my protection. So perhaps we need to start thinking of new ways to mitigate the threat, to eliminate the need for the security in the first place.
As the news headlines roll on my thoughts are with those who are directly affected, but also with those who have to deal with it, the police, fire and ambulance crews who are first into those blast sites and who are searching for other potential devices, and also for the intelligence services and the security staff who will be haunted for years to come with the doubt that they may have missed something that would have prevented it.
I never complain about security at airports and other terminus, because I know it is there for my protection. So perhaps we need to start thinking of new ways to mitigate the threat, to eliminate the need for the security in the first place.
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No one would ever accept this type of security at a railway station yet they too are targets so why should aviation be treated any differently.
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Some people are so sure it is justified that they will kill themselves and go to Hell for eternity for it.
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IMHO no religion has place in civilized society.
I don't know if it is a coincidence but when we arrived there last Wednesday we were told that for our departure on Friday (March 18th) to expect delays trying to get into the airport area due to increased security.
There was at the time in Brussels a very big European Commission assembly and meetings about the immigration situation with the refugees from Syria and the threat of terrorism.
There was at the time in Brussels a very big European Commission assembly and meetings about the immigration situation with the refugees from Syria and the threat of terrorism.
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Airport security must be completely reviewed
This has been done many times in the past, e.g 27 Dec 1985 Rome and Vienna airports. Unfortunately airport security must start from before entrance into the Terminals, if the terrorists today decided to attack simultaneously LHR, CDG, BRU, AMS, LIN/MXP and so on as an example, the entire economy of Europe will be in serious trouble together with the lives of millions of people in addition to the casualties on the ground. It is too easy to do and airports are excellent targets in the eyes of terrorists. I know we cannot cover and screen the entire transportation hubs in each country but airports are too important and if we do not act now there will be more attacks like this one. It has been another very successful attack in the eyes of the terrorists, and we cannot disagree, this is a war, they have done it before and they will try to attack our airports again, unless we stop the attackers before those suitcases full of explosive together with their AK47 rifle reach the check in area and Terminals. There is nothing more clever we could do now..
If we do not act now more airports will very likely be attacked in the same way. I am sure, would be terrorists keep emulating their colleagues and this attack is huge publicity for them and their tactics. Review of airport security to include landside will be painful and very frustrating but we have no choice I am afraid.
If we do not act now more airports will very likely be attacked in the same way. I am sure, would be terrorists keep emulating their colleagues and this attack is huge publicity for them and their tactics. Review of airport security to include landside will be painful and very frustrating but we have no choice I am afraid.
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Have you actually thought about what you are saying?
The terrorists blew up at the point before security.
They can do that no matter where you put security, because that is where you actually have security.
This has to be indoors for obvious reasons, and will obviously involve lots of people with bags.
No matter where you do it there will always be a big room full of people where you go through security.
It makes no difference how far from the aircraft you put security. There will always be a point for them to strike.
Have you actually thought about what you are saying?
The terrorists blew up at the point before security.
They can do that no matter where you put security, because that is where you actually have security.
This has to be indoors for obvious reasons, and will obviously involve lots of people with bags.
No matter where you do it there will always be a big room full of people where you go through security.
It makes no difference how far from the aircraft you put security. There will always be a point for them to strike.
The usual wild over-reaction. Stable door not only shut but guarded with great theatre - the whole of Brussels in lockdown, nationwide panic, neighboring countries increasing border checks (in the Schengen area!), etc. Brown people put in fear, randomly thrown off flights (e.g. Easyjet the other day), women in hijab spat at or worse, and so on. Just what the terrorists want.
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Terminals must be screened
Tourist: do you really believe that a suitcase that explodes inside a crowded Airport Terminal would do the same damage inflicted by a suitcase that explodes outside the Terminal?
1985: I remember very well FCO airport after the terrorist attack there, for many years after the attack of 1985 the Italian authorities placed two heavily armed Police/Carabinieri personnel at each airport entrance, together with sniffer dogs, no metal detector needed, they were just asking for a ticket and quick screening through profiling, minimum disruption but very effective in my opinion. Nobody else allowed landside unless you travelled. Very easy to implement, this type of "profiling" / quick screening is carried out in many high risk airports around the world, disruption & cost are minimal, however the deterrent factor in my opinion is significant. This would certainly not stop the detonation but what happened today in BRU would have had a different outcome (similar to the Stadium in Paris, basically a failure for the terrorists - open space explosions are failures compared to indoors explosions) if those guys were stopped before entering the Terminal. Terrorists would not target an airport again if they knew they would kill only two guards and a few people in a queue outside an airport entrance. Very simple. Airports are too important to be shut down as BRU is today. I am sure the security at BRU will involve quick checks before entering the Terminals from tomorrow morning.
1985: I remember very well FCO airport after the terrorist attack there, for many years after the attack of 1985 the Italian authorities placed two heavily armed Police/Carabinieri personnel at each airport entrance, together with sniffer dogs, no metal detector needed, they were just asking for a ticket and quick screening through profiling, minimum disruption but very effective in my opinion. Nobody else allowed landside unless you travelled. Very easy to implement, this type of "profiling" / quick screening is carried out in many high risk airports around the world, disruption & cost are minimal, however the deterrent factor in my opinion is significant. This would certainly not stop the detonation but what happened today in BRU would have had a different outcome (similar to the Stadium in Paris, basically a failure for the terrorists - open space explosions are failures compared to indoors explosions) if those guys were stopped before entering the Terminal. Terrorists would not target an airport again if they knew they would kill only two guards and a few people in a queue outside an airport entrance. Very simple. Airports are too important to be shut down as BRU is today. I am sure the security at BRU will involve quick checks before entering the Terminals from tomorrow morning.