Stag party causes Ryanair diversion
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A friend of mine just retired from Jet Airways in India. He told me the crew had a breathalyser test before every 1st sector. In France you need to carry a disposable one in your car. So they are available. Pax checked at the gate???????
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'A friend of mine just retired from Jet Airways in India. He told me the crew had a breathalyser test before every 1st sector. In France you need to carry a disposable one in your car. So they are available. Pax checked at the gate???????'
Oh please no.
It's bad enough having to endure a long flight.
A couple of glasses of wine or a brace of spirit measures are not going to tip the vast majority of people over the edge.
We already have enough regulation that is dumbed down to the pond life level as it is.
Oh please no.
It's bad enough having to endure a long flight.
A couple of glasses of wine or a brace of spirit measures are not going to tip the vast majority of people over the edge.
We already have enough regulation that is dumbed down to the pond life level as it is.
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In France you need to carry a disposable one in your car. So they are available
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Phileas : I agree with the destination/fare issue. I recall, Thursday night, Manch/ Gerona/ Manch, 18-30 club. Slept the nightmare off in the Excelsior. Friday saw me driving the 'Owners Abroad' lot to Funchal . Different universe.
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In my experience the issue is no longer with cabin crews serving passengers too much alcohol, or even airport bars serving people too much, but with people actually pouring their duty free alcohol into soft drinks bottles so their innocent looking Coca Cola was actually an extremely strong vodka and Coke. When you are at the stage where the airport cleaners or handling agents are having to follow passengers into toilets because they have (often justified) suspicions they are decanting alcohol from its original container then you have to wonder about the direction society is moving!
In France one needs to carry a warning triangle, in case of breakdown, and a fire extinguisher in one's car also
(and FWIW ExXB is correct about the breathlysers )
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SXF seems well off route to Bratislava. Looking at a google map I would have expected them to be closer to HHN than SXF, assuming a diversion into a RYR base would offer better & knowledgeable ground service: also a base captain to represent RYR's interests in any immediate action & follow-up.
I was wondering, in an incident like this which involves a diversion, at what point are pax informed (a) that a decision has been made to divert, and (b) where they are going to? I.e., would the announcement just say "right, that's it, we're diverting", and only tell pax where they are after landing?
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" I agree with the destination/fare issue. I recall, Thursday night, Manch/ Gerona/ Manch, 18-30 club "
Ah yes, the clientele of a tour operator beginning with C and ending in s perhaps ?.
Had an encounter one night whilst spannering when this group decided it was "good fun" to start bouncing around on the seats, removing the tables, or trying to, and then decided to "play" with the seat attachments on the floor rails.
The two drivers were quite happy for me to go and "discuss" matters with said clientele as indeed I did...working on the "BS baffles brains" principle as theirs were now well and truly pickled.
One politely pointed out that, whilst in the air, the aircraft was the responsibility of the Captain, on the ground it was mine...and did the ringleader know how much a replacement seat cost?...and the labour charges for an engineer ?....and had he heard of the A.N.O at all ? oh, and by the way, a Spanish nick isn't that comfortable....finally, using ones well honed diplomatic skills, one advised him in "hushed tones" to shut his gob and added something about a pubescent little txxt by way of conclusion.
Silence and harmony ensued thereafter.
Basil will doubtless confirm the diplomacy of F/E's, which one never was, but G/E's have the same intrinsic traits......
Ah yes, the clientele of a tour operator beginning with C and ending in s perhaps ?.
Had an encounter one night whilst spannering when this group decided it was "good fun" to start bouncing around on the seats, removing the tables, or trying to, and then decided to "play" with the seat attachments on the floor rails.
The two drivers were quite happy for me to go and "discuss" matters with said clientele as indeed I did...working on the "BS baffles brains" principle as theirs were now well and truly pickled.
One politely pointed out that, whilst in the air, the aircraft was the responsibility of the Captain, on the ground it was mine...and did the ringleader know how much a replacement seat cost?...and the labour charges for an engineer ?....and had he heard of the A.N.O at all ? oh, and by the way, a Spanish nick isn't that comfortable....finally, using ones well honed diplomatic skills, one advised him in "hushed tones" to shut his gob and added something about a pubescent little txxt by way of conclusion.
Silence and harmony ensued thereafter.
Basil will doubtless confirm the diplomacy of F/E's, which one never was, but G/E's have the same intrinsic traits......
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This whole thing concerns me.
I love a drink. I won't die sober.
Certainly not on a flight.
So I have a couple of wines before a flight. Before a Ryanair flight I'll have a last one and be the last on the flight.
Not delaying the thing, of course, just sure to be that last in the queue at the rear door.
I do regular stints. My latest normal one is the return between Charlerois and Edinburgh. I emphasise that I am a drunk - one who wears a suit.
Two wines get me through the flight, or maybe a large G&T.
Planes aren't great places to drink. I can if needed drink before, during and after a flight.
I love a drink. I won't die sober.
Certainly not on a flight.
So I have a couple of wines before a flight. Before a Ryanair flight I'll have a last one and be the last on the flight.
Not delaying the thing, of course, just sure to be that last in the queue at the rear door.
I do regular stints. My latest normal one is the return between Charlerois and Edinburgh. I emphasise that I am a drunk - one who wears a suit.
Two wines get me through the flight, or maybe a large G&T.
Planes aren't great places to drink. I can if needed drink before, during and after a flight.
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This whole thing concerns me.
I love a drink. I won't die sober.
Certainly not on a flight.
So I have a couple of wines before a flight. Before a Ryanair flight I'll have a last one and be the last on the flight.
Not delaying the thing, of course, just sure to be that last in the queue at the rear door.
I do regular stints. My latest normal one is the return between Charlerois and Edinburgh. I emphasise that I am a drunk - one who wears a suit.
Two wines get me through the flight, or maybe a large G&T.
Planes aren't great places to drink. I can if needed drink before, during and after a flight.
I love a drink. I won't die sober.
Certainly not on a flight.
So I have a couple of wines before a flight. Before a Ryanair flight I'll have a last one and be the last on the flight.
Not delaying the thing, of course, just sure to be that last in the queue at the rear door.
I do regular stints. My latest normal one is the return between Charlerois and Edinburgh. I emphasise that I am a drunk - one who wears a suit.
Two wines get me through the flight, or maybe a large G&T.
Planes aren't great places to drink. I can if needed drink before, during and after a flight.
So I did a quick bit of googling about sobriety and aviation. This is what came up.
In the area of internal aerodynamics we concentrate on the flow of gases and liquids in confined spaces. In general cases, it is necessary to solve problems with medium compressibility, viscosity, turbulent behavior and other nonlinearities, which ranks the area to difficult subjects, not just to engineering applications. The aim of our optimization is usually to find a suitable channel shape for optimal gas flow, in order to meet defined requirements such as minimum pressure loss, maximizing the flow etc.
The above is a description of the services offered by Sobriety.
So now I understand why it is necessary to drink before, during and after flying and it is encouraging to find that something is being done about the difficulties it causes to the internals when it comes to drinking in the air.
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@Giorgio73
not exactly the same situation but.....
As reported to me by a passenger on the unfortunate flight some years ago the a/c took off without any luggage on board due to a "problem".
Strange to report the Captain omitted to inform the passengers of this essential detail until they were well into the flight.
(It was a ski charter flight type so the hold luggage containing ski clothing, boots, gloves, goggles etc some skis and snowboards....is indeed pretty vital to the whole objective of the holiday).
Pretty obviously the crew knew that there would be a mutiny amongst the passengers requiring a return to base if it became known earlier so elected to "withhold" the info until so to speak it was too late to do anything
(well apart from buy/hire stuff at the destination and then argue it out in court afterwards).
not exactly the same situation but.....
As reported to me by a passenger on the unfortunate flight some years ago the a/c took off without any luggage on board due to a "problem".
Strange to report the Captain omitted to inform the passengers of this essential detail until they were well into the flight.
(It was a ski charter flight type so the hold luggage containing ski clothing, boots, gloves, goggles etc some skis and snowboards....is indeed pretty vital to the whole objective of the holiday).
Pretty obviously the crew knew that there would be a mutiny amongst the passengers requiring a return to base if it became known earlier so elected to "withhold" the info until so to speak it was too late to do anything
(well apart from buy/hire stuff at the destination and then argue it out in court afterwards).
