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Old 16th Feb 2016, 14:56
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The area is not pressurised and there is plenty of room in the aft part of it outboard of the ADG (RAT) Like volume says, nothing in there that could lead to those kind of injuries.
There is an hole/opening between the nose gear bulkheads (both sides) leading into the air conditioning bays so it is feasible he could have been crushed by the retracting nose gear and got through the opening on pure adrenalin alone before passing away, but it would be very tight.
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Ah i assumed that area was pressurised. I thought on most wideboday the whole cigar tube bar the wheel wells, and up to the RPB was.
I don't think we know anything about 'level of injury'. My supposition is that he snuck in through the well, and died of cold/hypoxia and then was there for several weeks to get to such a leaky state.
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Old 16th Feb 2016, 16:47
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Photos on FB show it was the FWD Cargo.
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Old 16th Feb 2016, 17:08
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Photos on FB show it was the FWD Cargo.
Huh? Is the cargo door really that far forward by the nose gear?
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Old 16th Feb 2016, 18:06
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Picture shows the access door for #3 air conditioning bay, not the fwd cargo door.
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Some more details from a South African news source:

The Equipment and Navigation Accessories (ENA) door of the MD 11 freighter is high up on the aircraft, not easily entered from the ground, and almost impossible to open midair, according to aviation experts who have seen the American freighter at Harare International Airport after it landed “during an emergency” on Sunday.

...Workers from the National Handling Co, according to information in the aviation world in Harare, went to attend to the plane and noticed blood high up on the plane, near the ENA door.

They were allegedly told it was caused by collision with a bird.

But drops of blood were still coming from that door area, and state security officials stationed at the airport insisted it be opened.

“So the engineer from the plane, for some reason put on latex gloves and opened the door which is quite high up the aircraft, and thwack, a fully clothed body of a black man fell out,” said an aviation insider.

Everyone around the plane was shocked and several noticed that there were burns to the dead man’s head, probably from ducts inside the ENA compartment. The dead man had no identification on him.

His body remained hanging out of the plane on the ground until Zimbabwe Republic Police arrived to take it away.

There are suspicions and speculation in aviation circles in Harare now that the US crew may have tried to dump the body during the flight from Munich, Germany, but could not open the ENA door from inside the aircraft over Mozambique because of pressure, and wanted to refuel in Harare and somehow dump the body after take off from Harare International.

The dead man is being investigated in Harare, but there are no qualified pathologists left in Zimbabwe.

Some say the US pilot is in detention, but informed sources in Harare say the four US airmen are in Meikles, a five-star hotel in central Harare.
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Old 17th Feb 2016, 01:45
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Stow away and a shipment of bank notes from the printer...

If nothing else, looking at all of the images, the ac with the original split winglet.....only took how many years?

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Got to love The quote that aviation circles in Harare think the crew tried to dump the body inflight, that would be quite impressive as that compartment is not accessible from inside the aircraft, & once again main things in that Bay are air conditioning components & the rat. As for the pressurisation stopping the crew opening the door ( Which is no accessible ) that bay is not pressurised which I would suggest is what caused the poor guys demise in the first place.

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Traces of fluids on the fuselage of N545JN had already been noticed and taken care of on the ground in Liege, before she was positioned to Munich. The stains were believed to be the results of a birdstrike though. The aircraft had been flying ABV- ABJ- EBB prior to coming to Liege.

Flightmech: There is an hole/opening between the nose gear bulkheads (both sides) leading into the air conditioning bays so it is feasible he could have been crushed by the retracting nose gear and got through the opening on pure adrenalin alone before passing away, but it would be very tight.
I find this highly plausible. For a small or very slim person it is doable (especially under those dire circumstances).
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Old 17th Feb 2016, 10:02
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The link at bottom has a bit more information.

"However, background research now revealed following facts:

On Feb 13th 2016 a Western Global Airlines McDonnell Douglas MD-11, registration N545JN (this aircraft registration has been involved in zero other incidents and/or accidents and A Western Global has been involved in 0 incidents reported on this site) performing flight AJK-4425 from Entebbe (Uganda) to Liege (Belgium), performed a seemingly uneventful flight and landed safely in Liege.

The aircraft subsequently positioned to Munich (Germany) still as flight AJK-4425 the same day.

A planespotter took a photograph of the aircraft in Munich which showed blood stains at the right hand side of the fuselage.

Ground staff at Munich Airport noticed the blood stains as well and reported the blood stain. The blood stains were identified as result of a bird strike however and no further action was taken.

In Munich the aircraft received its cargo destined for Durban (South Africa), a load of bank notes printed in Europe for the Reserve Bank of South Africa, and in the evening of Feb 13th 2016 departed as flight AJK-4130 with the intermediate destination Harare (Zimbabwe) for a planned fuel stop arriving in Harare on Feb 14th 2016.

During refueling the refueler discovered the blood stains on the panel, reportedly an air conditioning panel, at the right hand side of the fuselage and called police. A stowaway was subsequently recovered from the aircraft.

The aircraft, crew and the circumstances of the death of the stowaway are still under investigation by police in Zimbabwe.

The airline confirmed that their aircraft was leased to Network Airline Management. The shipment picked up in Munich was destined for South African Reserve Bank. The aircraft operates to Africa for Network Airline Management several times a week on a regular basis with Western Global providing aircraft and crew and Network Airline Management providing security, ground handling and cargo. The airline wrote: "During a routine fuel stop in Zimbabwe, a body was found in the lower compartment. The body is presumed to be a stowaway who may have entered the airplane during a previous stop. The situation is currently under review."

South African Reserve Bank stated: "The bulk of the annual production of banknotes is done locally in South Africa and a small percentage is done offshore as part of the contingency plans of the SARB. The aircraft currently detained at Harare Airport is carrying a consignment of South African banknotes that was produced overseas as part of the SARB's annual production plan."

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It still beats me how a WGA aircraft can liberally hop around Europe on a Nigerian callsign, chartered by a UK company, now that NGA has closed down and Neff no longer has an EU AOC at his disposal? Do the Germans, Belgians and French all turn a blind eye to the rules, or am I missing something?
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Old 19th Feb 2016, 07:36
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Why pick on WGA what about FedEx, Atlas, UPS & others all bring freight in to & out of the EU.
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Looks like they're on their way now: Zimbabwe releases US-registered plane carrying unidentified body | World news | The Guardian
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Old 20th Feb 2016, 23:45
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Now parked at Waterkloof AFB.
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Old 21st Feb 2016, 02:28
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Its still not clear why the plane landed in Zimbabwe as it was supposed to be a direct flight Munich-Durban
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Old 21st Feb 2016, 04:55
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t still beats me how a WGA aircraft can liberally hop around Europe on a Nigerian callsign, chartered by a UK company, now that NGA has closed down and Neff no longer has an EU AOC at his disposal? Do the Germans, Belgians and French all turn a blind eye to the rules, or am I missing something?
It is called ACMI, I am surprised by the lack of knowledge on the subject. The airline is operating on the the WET lease of the customer, the customer has a certificate, the aircraft is chartered for aircrew,maintenance and insurance.. long standing standard of business. Buyer pays for all other associated fee's and files the flight plan, more importantly THEY pay for the fuel. Additionally if one could climb up the NLG of a MD11 they would have access to the E&E, if the dead guy was able to open the door an alert would be displayed (possible reason for diversion) though he would be fighting cabin pressure, possible to partially make his way into the #3 pack bay.
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Old 21st Feb 2016, 12:15
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I am surprised by the lack of knowledge on the subject.
Me too. ACMI carriers have their own certificates.
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Originally Posted by Parrot
Its still not clear why the plane landed in Zimbabwe as it was supposed to be a direct flight Munich-Durban
According to what source?

Aviation Herald says the following:

"In Munich the aircraft received its cargo destined for Durban (South Africa)....and in the evening of Feb 13th 2016 departed as flight AJK-4130 with the intermediate destination Harare (Zimbabwe) for a planned fuel stop arriving in Harare on Feb 14th 2016."

The airline confirmed....: "During a routine fuel stop in Zimbabwe, a body was found in the lower compartment....."

News: A Western Global MD11 in Harare on Feb 14th 2016 and the results of the fuel stop
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Old 21st Feb 2016, 23:09
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It is called ACMI, I am surprised by the lack of knowledge on the subject. The airline is operating on the the WET lease of the customer, the customer has a certificate, the aircraft is chartered for aircrew,maintenance and insurance.. long standing standard of business. Buyer pays for all other associated fee's and files the flight plan, more importantly THEY pay for the fuel. Additionally if one could climb up the NLG of a MD11 they would have access to the E&E, if the dead guy was able to open the door an alert would be displayed (possible reason for diversion) though he would be fighting cabin pressure, possible to partially make his way into the #3 pack bay.
To me it seems to be quite obvious from all the reports that:

- the operating Carrier is Western Global (USA)
- the aircraft was leased to Allied Air (Nigeria) and flying under their flight number and callsign
- Customer was Network Airline Management

To get a clearer picture of the traffic right situation we would need to have more information on the traffic right agreement between Germany and South Africa. And - maybe even more important - the one between Germany and Zimbabwe. A more relaxed regulation in that agreement when it comes to third country cargo operators might give an explanation for the "tech stop" in Harare...
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Old 22nd Feb 2016, 12:55
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Is Harare the sort of place you'd choose for a fuel stop?
Is fuel readily available there? Is it super cheap?
Is it expensive in RSA?
Does an MD11 need to stop en route to RSA from Europe? I thought they had really long legs?
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