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Old 29th Jan 2016, 23:00
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Boeing's new 737 MAX plane takes its maiden flight | Fox News
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I saw it at lunch time flying by Paine Field in Everett - I presume they were doing a simulated go-around.
I was trying to access the noise level as it climbed away (787s and 747-8s are noticeably quieter than the 777s and 767s that fly out of Paine), but it was hard to tell due to the (noisy) T-38 chase plane right next to it.
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That is not a good looking aircraft
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It's really just a 737. Minimal change.
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That is not a good looking aircraft
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Wait till you see the cockpit
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They butchered it..

Well, it LOOKS like it goes fast?
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Ah now it makes sense where they went wrong..




Check out the right engine. It's bigger then the left!!!! And makes sense after reading Boeings Press Release that said "it will fly rings around the other aircraft".

So they new it was bad from the start..



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Don't tell me, Airbus fans and you love the A320, right?

Ignorance is bliss I guess....
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ACMS? Non-pilot...

...but as a pax only, the A320 is one noisy 'bus'! (<see what I did?) Not a fan.

Kinda needed to see the pic from Twitter then my 'serious' post would've made sense. Along with my tongue in cheek emoticon. Omg. I just spelt it out. Haha.

But oh no. Ppprune makes everything harder then it needs to with posting pics.


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Looks Good

IMO, the 737MAX is a good airplane, but still has to prove herself through the battery of cert. text. While Boeing has made a few errors here and there, if the engines prove themselves, they have another winner on their hands - and they cannot build them fast enough.
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IMO, the 737MAX is a good airplane, but still has to prove herself through the battery of cert. text.
You mean the same certification stuff they held onto from about 1967?? That's before the moon landing!

All they're testing is that the engines won't blow up and that the new electrics won't catch on fire.

Everything else is pretty well been tested to death over the last 45 years. Remember this is the same type certificate from the 60's!
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You mean the same certification stuff they held onto from about 1967?? That's before the moon landing!

All they're testing is that the engines won't blow up and that the new electrics won't catch on fire.

Everything else is pretty well been tested to death over the last 45 years. Remember this is the same type certificate from the 60's!
Don,t forget about flying straight and level without doing any nose hard over.

Sorry couldt resist.
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You mean rudder hard over? If you're going to be critical, at least be right. The rudder hard over issue was fixed in the mid 90s.

The aircraft looks fine from the outside to me. Prettier than anything Airbus make, anyway. I'm not a fan of the new display screens, though, one pilot losing half their nav display in order to display engine parameters or any systems displays. That was evidently done for cost, not practicality. It is also way past time they improved the central warning system (very unreliable) and the switchgear for the hydraulics and anti-ice, neither of which has been attended to despite the history.
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Not an AB fan at all but the A320 NEO looks great, everything in proportion, even with the bigger engines its an attractive aircraft.


The MAX may be efficient but its ugly, sitting low to the ground but having the nose gear jacked up to give the engines adequate clearance, the same ancient nose section from the 707 and all that cr*p at the end of the wings, it looks like it tried to taxi through too narrow a space.


I'm sure this Boeing will be a good aircraft but its seriously aesthetically challenged, even the 787 looks better.
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Old 30th Jan 2016, 09:44
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I find similarities equally interesting as differences...if you compare the 737 Max and A350 (same generation) flight deck, there are a few: the big screens, the "mouse" or camel hump for lack of a better word, no trim wheels.
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United have been operating a 737 out of Hong Kong for a while with those same winglets. Are they an option on current 737's?
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Well boeing will no doubt build lots of them whatever is said on here

It words and its economical despite being basically 50 years old on the surface.

Massive commonality issues for mega users like Southwest and Ryanair and i think that sort of thing decides whether an airline buys Boeing or Airbus a lot of the time for single aisle aircraft. (of course some huge carriers buy both)

Theres' not alot of difference except in the comfort stakes where unsurprisingly the newer AB design wins hands down being designed for the larger frame pax of the end of the 20th century not the slimline folks of the 50s . And if you have been on the two flight decks the AB advantage is even greater unless you are wedded to yokes.

However pax comfort is not somethign the airlines give a toss about and crew comfort comes even lower down the list and so we will soldier on until 2040 or so with much the same designs as have dominated the airways and gate spaces of the world since the 1980s
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Does anyone know if the new Max8 will have slower landing speed than the current -800? The latter lands very fast especially at Flap 30 - 148kts typically.
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Let's not turn this into the usual A v B fight ladies & gentlemen

Both aircraft will be better than their predecessors, will sell in the thousands and will be the backbone of global flying for the next 40-50 years

Lets hope they make the airlines some cash.....
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