Alaska Lands on Taxiway in SEA..
HT, the pin is the point at 2. 5 miles out on final to 16R. Sun direction is from the big yellow dot to southeast, in southern segment and pilots field of view. Obviously sun's BEARING would stay the same through the final approach, the dot is not meant to represent the sun's position in space!
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Non airline CPL here.
Taking into account what the FO is reported to have said, then extra markings and lights on the taxiway would not have changed this particular outcome since the glare etc would have "concealed" these markings and lights.
So, is there now justification for adding these additional markings and lights to mark that taxiway? What were the circumstances regarding the other taxiway incidents? Similar or totally different?
Taking into account what the FO is reported to have said, then extra markings and lights on the taxiway would not have changed this particular outcome since the glare etc would have "concealed" these markings and lights.
So, is there now justification for adding these additional markings and lights to mark that taxiway? What were the circumstances regarding the other taxiway incidents? Similar or totally different?
Mike734, I'm not sure what point you think I'm "pressing" ... the diagram was just to help show the visual situation. My second comment was to try and clarify it as HotelTango said it was misleading.
From the F/O's statement, it seems that in this situation glare was a problem and I specifically said that I wasn't implying anything about that.
From the F/O's statement, it seems that in this situation glare was a problem and I specifically said that I wasn't implying anything about that.
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Yes don't make assumptions. I've been told that. I think we all do most of the time unconsciously.
I've also been told to not touch anything hot, don't bang my head, don't leave my house keys in the house when I close the door. Unfortunately I still do all of these things from time to time.
It seems to me the guys made a snap decision with the best of intentions and due to the glare made an error.
Let's all try and use this as a valuable reminder of how easy it is to be caught out.
Next time I fly into SEA I'll try to remember this incident.
To be honest I'm more concerned about flying the ILS onto the 16s in IMC with VFR ish traffic flashing down my port wing causing TCAS RAs. I also remember Aero Mexico and PSA.
Ironically taxiway T is longer than 16R.
I've also been told to not touch anything hot, don't bang my head, don't leave my house keys in the house when I close the door. Unfortunately I still do all of these things from time to time.
It seems to me the guys made a snap decision with the best of intentions and due to the glare made an error.
Let's all try and use this as a valuable reminder of how easy it is to be caught out.
Next time I fly into SEA I'll try to remember this incident.
To be honest I'm more concerned about flying the ILS onto the 16s in IMC with VFR ish traffic flashing down my port wing causing TCAS RAs. I also remember Aero Mexico and PSA.
Ironically taxiway T is longer than 16R.
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Originally Posted by Chris2303
How about painting a big X on each end of the taxiway?
Originally Posted by Boeing Country
That taxiway does have a giant X on both ends that light up and flash. The ATIS has been broad casting for the pass ten years not to land on the taxiway. These 2 Seattle based pilots really effed up.
Google Earth does not depict it.
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