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Sky News reporting Air France bomb alert divert into Mombasa

Old 21st Dec 2015, 07:38
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Just shows how effective airport security prior to boarding is, doesn't it ?
What, that somebody managed to smuggle an alarm clock and some cardboard tubes onto an aircraft? There's currently no evidence to suggest that there was anything more sinister.
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Old 21st Dec 2015, 07:48
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There's currently no evidence to suggest that there was anything more sinister.
This time.
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Old 21st Dec 2015, 08:54
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This time.
Meaning what? That you know that there are problems with screening in Mauritius? That terrorist cells are actively plotting to attack aviation in Mauritius?

You've jumped a long way to a very big conclusion here, all from someone taping some cardboard to a clock.
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I doubt he has ever had to deal with a bomb or a terrorist threat - Laarbruch that is.
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Former police officer has been held by authorities, hope he gets 20 years, idiot.



French police detain man over Air France false alarm


French border police detained a man on Monday after an Air France plane had to make an emergency landing in Kenya over a suspicious device later found to be harmless, prosecutors said.
Air France staff decided late on Saturday to divert the plane to the nearest airport during a flight from Mauritius to Paris after a passenger found the object in the toilets and alerted crew.
The prosecutors gave no details about the man taken into custody, though BFM TV said he was a former police officer and had been detained on arrival in Paris.
Air France said all 459 passengers and 14 crew had arrived safely at Paris Charles de Gaulle airport shortly before 6am. The airline said it had filed a complaint for “reckless endangerment” over the incident.
Air France said the suspicious object, which was found in a small cupboard behind a mirror in the toilets, was made out of cardboard and paper and contained a timer, and must have been planted during the flight.
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Old 21st Dec 2015, 13:57
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...and must have been planted during the flight.
Indeed most likely assembled in-situ during the flight. It would take just minutes, so no need for the hoaxer to risk being found with something looking like a bomb in their carry on baggage.
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I doubt he has ever had to deal with a bomb or a terrorist threat - Laarbruch that is.
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Originally Posted by RoyalEnfield
Yeah I'd like to know as well...
Question was answered post #17

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I'm a little surprised to see "only" two slides deployed on the photo of the plane (incidentally, those slides are the nearest from the location of the (in)famous toilet, as per AF spokesman: "toilet near door 3, above the wing").
Do you think more slides have been used (but already removed/stowed), or that less slides have been used (only the two visible? more on the starboard side?) and what would be the likely reason?

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Old 21st Dec 2015, 15:45
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My assumption is that they performed a precautionary disembarkation.

A combination of steps/slides can be used in this case.
It's the Captain's decision after assessing the situation and the logistics available.
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Old 21st Dec 2015, 15:48
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Air France bomb scare: 'Two held' in Paris - BBC News

Do these people (the suspects) not realise that they will be found out?

Do aircraft have CCTV (like buses do almost universally)?
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Old 21st Dec 2015, 16:11
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AZR re. slides: On the AF 777-300 doors 3 are emergency-only doors located right above the wings with 4 toilets in between. Doors 4L/R are further aft.

I think skytrax has it right.
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Old 21st Dec 2015, 16:32
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Hopefully everything is fine...
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Old 21st Dec 2015, 17:13
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Whenever terrorism becomes a topic of discussion on PPRuNe, a lot is made about ensuring nothing is said that may be useful to would be terrorists - either in terms of technical information or simply "giving them ideas"...

I tend to think that the relatively small number of determined terrorists that are out there will have little trouble researching their "craft" elsewhere, but this incident really makes me wonder how many idiots out there might be tempted to try a similar hoax after seeing this on the news.

The world media seems eager to show high resolution photographs of the "device" while devoting countless hours of airtime to discussing exactly how easy it was to bring the component parts aboard and just how difficult it would be to prevent somebody else from doing exactly the same thing again. Add to this the continuing footage of disrupted passengers and constant reminders of just how many people were affected and how much disruption and cost this represents to the airline and you have a perfect recipe for idiots getting ideas. And let's face it, idiots are far more plentiful in this world than comitted terrorists!

It would be nice if the global media could show a little more restraint (and common sense!) when reporting stories like this but, given the likelihood of that, let's just hope that the punishment is severe when it is handed out and that the media show as much vigour in reporting it.
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Old 21st Dec 2015, 19:34
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Call me a conspiracist

Maybe a test run to check airport/airline security with pieces of devices smuggled on board by more than 1 person?

Before anyone jumps on me about telling secrets, this has been mentioned in other threads and forums, including some LEO forums.

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Old 21st Dec 2015, 19:59
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Maybe a test run to check airport/airline security with pieces of devices smuggled on board by more than 1 person?
Then, having succeeded why bring attention to the fact as in this case? It is also arguably much easier to bring strips of material and a timer of some description then it is to smuggle actual explosives in one's carry on.

Yes OBD, I would call you a conspiracist
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Old 21st Dec 2015, 21:01
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Or maybe?

Someone in the catering crew, lav crew, etc., is in on it, and the pax are just the assemblers?

The test run might be to simulate other airports.

I know...conspiracist..... :-)

"Nuff said.

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Old 22nd Dec 2015, 06:10
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Former police officer has been held by authorities, hope he gets 20 years, idiot.
The "idiot" ( always be careful with words when one is only a suspect ) and his wife were released yesterday evening with no charges. According the media this morning he was apparently the one that found the device in the toilet and gave " advises" to the crew afterwards..
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Old 22nd Dec 2015, 09:38
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Very true ATC Watcher. It escapes many readers' attention that being arrested on suspicion does not imply guilt until proven.
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Old 23rd Dec 2015, 07:07
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Skytrax, DJ77, thanks. The pax all talk about slides in the media. I assume all got out this way...
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Old 23rd Dec 2015, 23:12
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If they arrested an ex-cop just because he happened to find the thing, it makes you wonder what chance the rest of us have. (Of course, his name might have matched one a list, or something like that.)
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