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Oh, they wouldn't......would they?

Old 5th Nov 2015, 13:24
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Originally Posted by nacluv View Post
A&C: Speaking as one who is clearly not very bright, how do you explain that I, among several hundred others, directly witnessed that event with our own eyes?

And the many others who have written about the same thing ever since it happened back in 1998? The many videos and photographs of the event? All fictitious? Arse!
Oh please go back and re-read the post from A&C. Then read it again S L O W L Y, incase you really are not so bright.
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Old 5th Nov 2015, 13:48
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CAA investigation

I am told that the CAA did investigate the incident at Goodwood with a view to taking action against the pilot.

The investigating officer failed to find a single witness who was prepared to stand up in court and give evidence, he concluded that it was ether the greatest case of collective amnesia in modern times or just a lot of type of line shooting one finds in flying club bars.

As in this country some one is innocent until proven guilty I and the CAA conclude that this never happened as the case would clearly not stand up in court and so the YouTube stuff is fabricated.

I hope the CAA come to the same conclusion over the very poor quality video of the rolling.
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Old 5th Nov 2015, 13:59
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Wasting CAA time a criminal offence? Why not?

It is a criminal offence to waste police time. If it is not possible to prosecute those who waste the time of the CAA, then the law needs to change to enable this.

I am pretty sure that everywhere the Vulcan flew, there would be lots of photos and video. It's pretty near impossible that only one photographer caught this. Who is he? If he is prepared to post photos, let's see him interviewed on video and asked some detailed questions by people well versed in both aviation and photography.

If he is alleging a criminal offence has been committed, and he cannot make it stack up, then maybe a civil action can be brought against him.
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Old 5th Nov 2015, 16:55
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Oh that there were some retired ex-bomber command officers of character in CAA circles who could have a quiet word.
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Old 8th Nov 2015, 09:51
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When on a Chipmunk BFTS course at Derby, many, many years ago. Final check at end of course. Instructor said "low flying, how low is low, I have control. We went down, and I swear one wingtip was actually under the branches of a tree.
My late brother, who served 22 years, said Lancasters were commonly rolled.
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Old 9th Nov 2015, 01:25
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Speaking of barrel rolling an Olympus engined delta wing
http://youtu.be/KYQS3qAIjAo at 3 mins
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Old 9th Nov 2015, 05:04
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Low aspect ratio aircraft with the engines close to the C/L tend to have a high rate of roll and so are easy to barrel roll because it's easy to limit the pitch angles. It's a very different matter with a B747 or a B-52. Neither a Vulcan nor a Concorde barrel roll requires any special skill.
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Old 9th Nov 2015, 09:22
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Barrel roll = die

The way I see it, is that there could be 2 outcomes to doing a barrel roll in a Vulcan...

1. You die
2. You don't die

Now if scenario 1 is the outcome, not too much to worry about other than you would be remembered as the guy that destroyed the last good Vulcan.

If you survive, Well however unlikely that is, Whats the worst that could happen. You will be remembered as the guy with the huge cahoonas that barrel rolled the Vulcan and lived to tell the tale. Plus, if they want to be anal about it, they could take your rating away

Either way, I would rather take my chances fighting a Lion in the bush than barrel rolling a Vulcan.
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Old 9th Nov 2015, 09:34
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Originally Posted by ZeroThreeLeft View Post
Either way, I would rather take my chances fighting a Lion in the bush than barrel rolling a Vulcan.
Are you a pilot?

I don't think anybody else on here would really be concerned about the technical difficulty of the roll, merely the legal side of things.

I have never flown a Vulcan or anything like it (concorde?) but I would have no concerns rolling one if given it airborne. A roll is a roll.

I would be rather more worried about the consequences from a license standpoint.....
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Old 10th Nov 2015, 22:18
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Thumbs up

Its easier to ask for forgiveness than it is for permission.....good on them
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Old 11th Nov 2015, 02:09
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Originally Posted by 911slf
It is a criminal offence to waste police time.
Good one...

If that were really true all the popo need to arrest themselves...to be incarcerated at the local doughnut shop...
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