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SQ A330/300 nosewheel collapse

Old 11th Oct 2015, 03:27
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SQ A330/300 nosewheel collapse

Happened this morning at Changi Airport


Singapore Airlines plane collapses at Changi Airport - Channel NewsAsia
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Old 11th Oct 2015, 04:46
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Much loss of face....
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Hopefuly there will be a Malysian around they can blame!
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I wonder what tasks the engineer was undertaking while he was onboard.
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Damn those Pins that fall out......
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Old 11th Oct 2015, 06:15
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I was supposed to be on that plane - SQ890 to HK. After a gate change and late departure the captain apologised for late departure due to "engineering difficulties"
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Injuries

I'm glad no one was killed or injured. (Other than pride)
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Few bucks worth of damage there, cabin door looks like it's been torn out as well.
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Is it resting on the nacelles or are they still clear of the ground?
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Looks like it is on the nacelles Chris
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Old 11th Oct 2015, 10:18
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I would have thought the Airbus System Logic would prevent gear retraction on the ground? I'm not suggesting the gear lever was selected up, but thought there'd be a general logic to prevent gear retract on the ground?
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Can't see a ground engineer between the ladder and the plane...must have been in stores looking for that matching replacement part.
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I would have thought the Airbus System Logic would prevent gear retraction on the ground? I'm not suggesting the gear lever was selected up, but thought there'd be a general logic to prevent gear retract on the ground?

most a/c have a squat switch that will prevent gear retraction on the ground. It can be overridden during mx ( the article stated "undergoing a landing gear system check"?). A few people have lost their job after an aircraft was found kneeling (the main gear is usually different). Can also be mechanical failure, but I haven't heard of that happening on A330 yet
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Looks like it is on the nacelles Chris
The photos I took show it on the nacelles - but only just



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Can also be mechanical failure, but I haven't heard of that happening on A330 yet
Not totally up to speed on 330 quirks, but 2 airlines I am aware of supply nose gear downlock pins attached to steering bypass pins to their 330 line mx providers.
There's probably a reason?
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Not totally up to speed on 330 quirks, but 2 airlines I am aware of supply nose gear downlock pins attached to steering bypass pins to their 330 line mx providers.
There's probably a reason?
This thread

http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/22901...-pushback.html

suggests that a few A330 operators use a belt-and-braces approach where the NLG downlock pin is used on pushback, as well as its normal use for towing and landing gear maintenance, in which case I suppose it makes sense to keep the gear pin and steering lockout pin together.
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You mean people push back/pull forwards without a nose pin in place?/ REALLY
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I seem to recall the Trident had an offset, sideways retracting NG. That had a structural advantage, and would be less likely to see accidental retraction IMHO.
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You mean people push back/pull forwards without a nose pin in place?
Yes and no, respectively.
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I would have thought the Airbus System Logic would prevent gear retraction on the ground? I'm not suggesting the gear lever was selected up, but thought there'd be a general logic to prevent gear retract on the ground?
It does. There are several near/far prox sensors dotted about. To get the gear to move on the ground the prox sensors need to be 'gagged' with metal slivers to simulate a 'near' target position. The computer logic will then let you raise the gear lever on ground. Assuming the gear pins are fitted the doors will open the gear will shudder a bit when the 'up' line pressurises and we all breath again.

The rumour network has suggested that the eng was replacing a landing gear lever module. An unconfirmed rumour suggests that the crew came along, saw the nose gear pin in place and removed it prior to the function test. Personally I find that hard to believe but it will stir the pot until we know more.

Glad no one was hurt. Could have been nasty.
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