Airbus A320 crashed in Southern France
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FDR Retrieved....not.
Geotracker: "It's also reported that the black boxes are retrieved."
Geotracker, Where was that reported?
That would be remarkably fast wouldn't it - incident happens this morning less than 3 hours ago in a very remote area, and somehow the recorders have been retrieved and that fact reported via media.
Geotracker, Where was that reported?
That would be remarkably fast wouldn't it - incident happens this morning less than 3 hours ago in a very remote area, and somehow the recorders have been retrieved and that fact reported via media.
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explosive decompression event
The airlines webserver https://www.germanwings.com/de.html is currently down too.
yep ground level in alps is going to be something like 6000 feet
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For those who speak German, here's an example of a more cautious expert at work in the media (Tagesschau, 12.00 MET):
ARD-Luftfahrtexperte Immel: "Flugsicherung wertet Infos jetzt aus" | tagesschau.de
The anchorwoman tries to draw him into the usual speculation ("is there information on the cause yet?", "is the aircraft type unsafe?"). The interview partner Michael Immel (a journalist with Hessischer Rundfunk) manages, however, to emphasize that it takes very long ("many months") to investigate an accident, that there mostly is no single cause ("chain of events") and that the aircraft type in itself is safe.
ARD-Luftfahrtexperte Immel: "Flugsicherung wertet Infos jetzt aus" | tagesschau.de
The anchorwoman tries to draw him into the usual speculation ("is there information on the cause yet?", "is the aircraft type unsafe?"). The interview partner Michael Immel (a journalist with Hessischer Rundfunk) manages, however, to emphasize that it takes very long ("many months") to investigate an accident, that there mostly is no single cause ("chain of events") and that the aircraft type in itself is safe.
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UPDATE:
According on live french news channel France24, a DGAC spokesm said there was NO emergency call from the cockpit, they speak about a DETRESFA which means aircraft dissapeared suddenly from radar and lost comunication. The ATC launched the DETRESFA for finding the plane.
According on live french news channel France24, a DGAC spokesm said there was NO emergency call from the cockpit, they speak about a DETRESFA which means aircraft dissapeared suddenly from radar and lost comunication. The ATC launched the DETRESFA for finding the plane.
How can anyone post that.... 14000fpm... Common sense says it has to be garbage! Discrediting the source completely. Why fill this space, and the media with more misinformation like speed 24kts.
Please think before you post?
Please think before you post?
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I wouldn't expect a descent rate of 3,500 fpm even with a dual engine failure.
The 14,000 fpm is a spike possibly caused by the event triggering this crash. Possibly a pressure shock over the static ports?
The Aircraft continued at FL380 for a time after that spike then descended as you'd expect with flight idle and speed brakes extended at VMO.
Somehow the crew became disabled and unable to level off.......
The Aircraft continued at FL380 for a time after that spike then descended as you'd expect with flight idle and speed brakes extended at VMO.
Somehow the crew became disabled and unable to level off.......
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UPDATE:
According experts on RTL news, they said that the most propable cause for a crash like this is due to a pressurisation problem, especially when it has been noticed a rapid desent from cruise to around 10.000ft and then stabilising and then for unknown reason it further descended into the terrain...
Waiting more news....
According experts on RTL news, they said that the most propable cause for a crash like this is due to a pressurisation problem, especially when it has been noticed a rapid desent from cruise to around 10.000ft and then stabilising and then for unknown reason it further descended into the terrain...
Waiting more news....
The French ATC Union SNCTA have cancelled their strike action for 25th,26th,27th March.
http://www.sncta.fr/?wpfb_dl=577
http://www.sncta.fr/?wpfb_dl=577
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Originally Posted by demomonkey View Post
I don't understand why a engine out scenario would be slower? Descents are performed with engines idle. An average of 3,500 fpm seems pretty consistent. If they were using the speed brake as well it might have been more which might suggest they had airframe damage.
I don't understand why a engine out scenario would be slower? Descents are performed with engines idle. An average of 3,500 fpm seems pretty consistent. If they were using the speed brake as well it might have been more which might suggest they had airframe damage.
Unlike a decompression there is no urgency in an EO descent
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Condolences to all involved 
Without knowing the details,
Hull losses occurring from stable mid-flight situations without human interference seem sparse
Full clarity seems almost guaranteed, because this one went down in a western area with FDR's probably recovered, analyzed and studied within days.
Without knowing the details,
Hull losses occurring from stable mid-flight situations without human interference seem sparse
Full clarity seems almost guaranteed, because this one went down in a western area with FDR's probably recovered, analyzed and studied within days.