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TransAsia in the water?

Old 4th Feb 2015, 08:13
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Reviewing the pictures several times I got the perception that the tail might have hit the top of the building and than the plane bank sharply
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 08:18
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Clearer video clip here
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJNAx4BsUtE
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 08:19
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just saw footage on Channel 10 news in BNE.


Reporter said aircraft hit a taxi on freeway before hitting freeway 7 crashing into river.


She went onto say that aircraft had just taken off from TPE & was headed to Taiwan !!! Obviously failed geography at school.
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 08:27
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TransAsia in the water?

Or the pilot banked to avoid the road?
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 08:28
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TransAsia in the water?

I know nothing about ATR procedures and it could be normal but how long after takeoff as the aircraft appears to be flaps up??
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 08:29
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Point of collision with the elevated road using co-ordinates from the dashcam in post #24

https://goo.gl/maps/bErFP
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 08:30
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Im with Mike. Either about to enter a secondary stall, or knowing it's about to be over, banking hard left to avoid cars.
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 08:34
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a similar type our flaps stay at 7 until 1500 feet and accelerate a to VSER
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 08:38
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Pictures from the live stream showing the orange black boxes (2) in the back of a station wagon.

Live Stream -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=T8GmxMGCDh4
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 08:38
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ATR doesn't have a roll rate anything like that.

Flaps come up at white bug, roughly 20kts above V2 after the climb sequence is done and dusted.. Say 1000-1500ft very roughly.

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Old 4th Feb 2015, 08:38
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Given the map posted, it does seem he was trying to get it hard left and over the road to ditch it but lost too much altitude/ had too much bank?
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 08:42
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Looks to me that they hit Vmca.
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 08:45
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There is no way there is control at the latter stages, they are not trying to avoid bridges or buildings the last few seconds over the bridge the aircraft was completely out of control
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 08:49
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Originally Posted by TWT View Post
Point of collision with the elevated road using co-ordinates from the dashcam in post #24

https://goo.gl/maps/bErFP
If that is the location, looks a fair way off the centre line of the runway. I can only assume he was in trouble almost immediately & was heading for the river....then he was too high before the bridge (Sanchong Rd) & too low after...
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 08:51
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Looking at the photos i think the LH engine is feathered, hard to say but the flap looks like it is at its takeoff setting.
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 09:02
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Below is the Google streetview of the point of impact with the road. On the left is a light pole which was removed by the aircraft as it came down.

What's more interesting is the high voltage lines running across above. Could this be the reason for the sharp bank to avoid those wires?

https://www.google.com.au/maps/@25.0...pIYA!2e0?hl=en

Note: the high voltage powerlines are not show in the satellite view only the streetview.
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 09:05
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You can't roll an ATR that fast with control inputs alone. It just won't do it.

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Old 4th Feb 2015, 09:10
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From the pictures and the reports of a mayday call it could be a left engine failure and subsequent stall and wing drop. The direction of the roll and wingdrop would tie in with the left engine failure theory. As for the stall, there could be a myriad of reasons.
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 09:21
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StormyKnight,it's the other carriageway to the east,cars heading NW (ish)

Streetview here: https://goo.gl/maps/wYHxO

Aircraft passed just behind the overhead crossbar
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 09:25
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TransAsia in water.

Are 58 souls a full load for this aircraft?
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