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Old 5th Mar 2016, 23:53
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Idiot flies recreational drone to 10,000 ft in Holland

This is in Dutch, so you might need Google translate to read it.

On a Dutch drone site, the posting says it all.


http://www.dronewatch.nl/2016/03/03/idioot-brengt-hobbydrone-tot-hoogte-van-34-km/
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A news for nerds site says drones no problem for aircraft

This, posted on a site called Slashdot. I'd welcome a commercial pilot to pop over there and set the record straight. Slashdot is popular with tech savvy nerds. Who love drones. I was shocked to see posters being casual about a 777 sucking a drone into an engine.

http://m.slashdot.org/story/308149


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Pilots have had to deal with in-air objects for decades. As both a pilot and a passenger I have avoided high performance weather balloon experiments, one time in particular was a reminder to pay attention as someone's looking-like 20+ lb payload was literally at our wing height, and 20 ft away.
Part of your job as pilot in command is to fly in and share the airspace.
Are there going to be flight/drone collisions? Yes, eventually. But planes, helicopters and balloons don't own the sky just because they were there first. A TCAS IV chipset might make a nice addition, but restricting a million plus drones to ensure a few thousand planes, that are already on the lookout, are safe? That's just stupid.
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Old 7th Mar 2016, 19:36
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That's precisely the kind of thing that gives everyone who has any sense of safety nightmares!

Where I fly model planes, the new rules in place mean I have to call the local tower to get permission (after logging the request on the national "airshare" web site).

I recently asked a busy controller if it was a PITA to be constantly called by model plane flyers - her response was that it was better to be slightly inconvenienced and know what is flying where, rather than not know what is flying anywhere...
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Old 7th Mar 2016, 21:17
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Unfortunately there are to many idiots around flying this copters/drones nowadays.

There are plenty of videos in the net proofing how high they can fly(and then crash back to earth because the battery ran empty on the way down), so it is very easy that they can endanger any aircraft.

I do commercial drone flying(certified by the authority) since 5 years now(sidejob to my real flying), but the regulations just keep growing and it makes it impossible(my opinion) for any certified operator to stay legal and still make money. Then are all the others that just do it black, sell the service for 50% of the price(easy if you put all in the pocket and do not need to pay anything to the aviation/tax authority).

I will pull out of this business this year because it is simply to dangerous and to annoying(most of the time the police swings by when we fly, so we have to do the "dance" everytime, show the license, get our id checked, blablabla, just because some guys do not know how to behave). Years ago people asked about drones, liked to look at it, nowadays the call the police if the see one flying in the city. Thanks to modern media and some reckless "pilots".

This things should have never been sold over the counter without any kind of registration(in some countries even bicycles are registered, why not drones?) so you could track people.

Well, DJI and Co are flooding the market with this things, I guess on some stage they will be just forbidden as it happened already in some countries. In the wrong hands this things are very dangerous.
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Eagles trained to take out drones

Forgive me if this is a repost.


Eagles trained to take down drones - BBC News
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Eagles trained to take down drones - BBC News

Cheaper than F15's. More stealthy too.
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SkyWall 100: An anti-drone bazooka

Made by UK company OpenWorks, the bazooka will "help the police control the skies."




SkyWall 100: An anti-drone bazooka | Ars Technica
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Old 11th Mar 2016, 15:27
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So skywall can get to **gasp** 300ft! and of course what happens to the net when it _doesn't_ catch the 'drone' on a windy day? So the airport puts out how many people to do this to cover 100 meters (that is slant range).

People thinking this is a good idea have never had to secure an airport. A modern airport boundary is from 8 to 20 miles long. So how many people with these 'skywalls' would you need? They would be hard put to protect a single house let alone an airport.
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I attended a multirotor event in Germany over the weekend. General consensus amongst distributors is that sales have peaked and are now showing steep downward trend.

Those that wanted a drone have bought one. Many of those are now either broken or sitting in the back of a cupboard...

Sales will continue, but one wonders if the peak of interest has passed...
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http://www.popsci.com/new-report-dro...zsWDz3kOTHZ.03
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they're getting closer.....

LH A380 vs drone at LAX:

Lufthansa jet and drone nearly collide near LAX - LA Times
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Old 19th Mar 2016, 00:11
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What bothers me is that some weight can be attached to the drone, so what if it was explosive ........ ???? for example:
Jane Jones, Work at professional drone manufacturer MMCUAV
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Many drones can only carry 3-10kg, while we MMC has designed one type drone which can carry 25KG weight.
Below is the details of it:
http://mmcuav.en.alibaba.com/product...p_Sprayer.html
I wonder who can purchase and use this one?

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I wonder who can purchase and use this one?
Aerial photography amongst other uses. The issue is, that with this kind of payload, these drones only have a very short endurance, typically a few minutes. The link says 60 mins, but unless these guys have made the breakthrough of the century in battery technology, that's BS, unless empty (and I doubt even that). Btw, there are much bigger ones out there, used for aerial cinematography. However, these are flown by pros, normally in a controlled environment (e.g. film set). The problem are the plonkers who fly at 5k ft in the approach to LAX
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A variation on the theme?

Drone smashes through office window, hits man | IOL

Drone smashes through office window, hits man
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Good footage. Surprised having sound on a DJI Phantom as pretty sure the standard is just video as all you can hear is the props. Still made the video more interesting.

You should be able to track the take off point from the data on the SD card to find the pilot or at least his preferred take off point ready for when he gets his next one up in the air.
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Looks like they found the pilot and he's going to be having words with the SA CAA

Drone crashes through window and hits man on the head | Metro News
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Many drones can only carry 3-10kg, while we MMC has designed one type drone which can carry 25KG weight.
Below is the details of it:
http://mmcuav.en.alibaba.com/product...p_Sprayer.html
I wonder who can purchase and use this one?
Some Finnish farmers have developed one to carry a chainsaw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Viwwetf0gU
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Nice to see that it was brought down by a balloon, justice!
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Drone incident - Near CDG at 2,300 metres

A drone flying at an altitude of more than 2,000 metres came close to an Aer Lingus plane as it approached Paris's Charles de Gaulle airport yesterday, airport sources said this morning.

The incident comes after a British Airways plane nearing London's Heathrow Airport on Sunday is believed to have hit a drone before it landed safely.

In yesterday’s incident, the Aer Lingus pilot saw the drone pass about 150m from the right wing of the Airbus A320 plane, one of the sources said.

After landing, the pilot informed air traffic police about the incident, which happened as the plane was flying at 2,300 metres and was around 50km from the airport on its journey from Dublin.

It is not known how many passengers were on the plane.

In February, the pilot of an Air France Airbus A320 was forced to make an emergency manoeuvre to avoid a drone.

The drone passed five metres under the plane's left wing as it was at 1,600m altitude on its approach to Charles de Gaulle.

Shop-bought micro-drones are not allowed to fly above 150m altitude in France, although some can reach several thousand metres.


Drone reportedly flew close to Aer Lingus plane - RTÉ News
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7500 FT? Doesn't sound like a typical shop purchased drone... most of them would have run out of battery before getting that height..
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