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Old 26th Dec 2018, 09:52
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At $2000 each not really a "solution" to gain widespread popularity. What percentage of "drones" operate in CTR/CTA? Here in Australia that is not permitted generally.
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Old 26th Dec 2018, 11:49
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Originally Posted by KelvinD
The police officer didn't state there may not have been a drone at all. During a press conference, a single reporter asked if that could be a possibility and he replied with something along the lines of "it is possible". The police later clarified that there had been 67 sightings in total. Another mistake the NYT have made is (I suspect) to have gathered their info from some of the crap press we have here in the UK. With regard to the "No videos etc"; refer to the thread on this forum: https://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/616...rone-s-14.html. Go to post #270. From there, you can watch a video.
Sorry Kelvin , but DCI Wigly did say to camera " we are including investigating the possibility of there never being any drones"..........
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Old 26th Dec 2018, 12:14
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I have yet to see any concrete evidence to suggest that there was even a drone! Even in this day and age there should be far more videos and photographs especially at LGW where many gates and walkways cover a wide view of the airport.

Was this blown way out of proportion by closing the airport for such a long time? Of course it was!

I have a strong feeling that ground staff confused a bird with a drone on several occasions after the initial "wrong" drone report came through! The media obviously didn't help with their usual style of reporting. This media added an external pressure to LGW management and they felt they had to be seen to respond by making such a horrendous decision in closing the airport!
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Old 26th Dec 2018, 12:54
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Old 26th Dec 2018, 15:28
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It is salutary to read the first few posts on this thread dating from 2014........................... everything we see today was forecast then
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Old 26th Dec 2018, 19:02
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One of the many odd things about this event is that I don't recall anyone mentioning noise from the drone. An airport is a very noisy place air-side, but it might have been relatively quiet during the shutdown period.

I've had one drone encounter: A small one flew directly over my house and parked, maybe around 400 feet up. It was probably filming a town parade happening a block away in our neighborhood. Even with the noise of the marching bands warming up, I heard the drone before I saw it, and knew to look up in the sky.

These things are not quiet, especially any of the larger pro video or agricultural models. Even the smaller ones (like the one over my house) make enough noise to attract attention. But as far as I know, these "sightings" were all visual. Did anyone mention hearing anything?
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Old 26th Dec 2018, 19:48
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Originally Posted by Photonic
One of the many odd things about this event is that I don't recall anyone mentioning noise from the drone. An airport is a very noisy place air-side, but it might have been relatively quiet during the shutdown period.

I've had one drone encounter: A small one flew directly over my house and parked, maybe around 400 feet up. It was probably filming a town parade happening a block away in our neighborhood. Even with the noise of the marching bands warming up, I heard the drone before I saw it, and knew to look up in the sky.

These things are not quiet, especially any of the larger pro video or agricultural models. Even the smaller ones (like the one over my house) make enough noise to attract attention. But as far as I know, these "sightings" were all visual. Did anyone mention hearing anything?
In short, no. Because no such drone existed. And now airlines do not need to pay compensation as per EU Regulations because the reason for the delays and cancellations cannot be determined.
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Old 26th Dec 2018, 20:17
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It could be said that the reason for the delays and cancellations was the reaction to a report!.
Whether that report was correct, truthful, accurate or made for some ulterior reason matters not.
I wonder if there will be any public disclosure of the results of any 'enquiries' undertaken, if so they will be interesting to say the least.

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Old 27th Dec 2018, 03:20
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A crime not solved within a news cycle does not a conspiracy make...
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 13:06
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Originally Posted by A320ECAM
I have yet to see any concrete evidence to suggest that there was even a drone! Even in this day and age there should be far more videos and photographs especially at LGW where many gates and walkways cover a wide view of the airport.
There were several videos showing it flying around - I cannot post links but if you do a search for 'daily mail drone video' its the first vid in the results
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 14:35
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There were several videos showing it flying around - I cannot post links but if you do a search for 'daily mail drone video' its the first vid in the results
Police drone it would appear......
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Old 28th Dec 2018, 06:24
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Sold to Vinci

Is it too much into tinfoil hat territory to speculate on a possible connection to the sale of a majority stake in the airport? Link
There will surely have been an effect on the airport's financials.
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Old 28th Dec 2018, 13:33
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A total farce.
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Old 29th Dec 2018, 13:53
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...cid=spartandhp
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Old 29th Dec 2018, 15:14
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Sussex top cop:

However, he admitted that police drones launched to investigate could have caused "some level of confusion".

Mr York revealed two drones found by police near the airport had now been ruled out of causing the disruption, which saw flights cancelled or diverted.

Despite searches of 26 potential sites, he said: "I don't think we have found the drone responsible."
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Old 29th Dec 2018, 15:17
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Were there actually any in the first place?
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Old 30th Dec 2018, 13:32
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Originally Posted by langleybaston
Sussex top cop:

police drones launched to investigate could have caused "some level of confusion".
Perhaps police drones should be banned before somebody gets hurt...?
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Old 31st Dec 2018, 05:55
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Originally Posted by langleybaston
This country resembles a lunatic asylum run by a skeleton staff.

A collective death-wish has taken hold of what was once a great nation. Mercy killing seems to be in order .............. they shoot horses, don't they?
It sometimes seems that way, yes. How do you propose to fix it?
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Old 31st Dec 2018, 06:50
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However, he admitted that police drones launched to investigate could have caused "some level of confusion".
No he didn't.
Were there actually any in the first place?
Something like 150 sightings were reported, including 4 from people on the airport roof and these 4 were confirmed by 2 police officers close to the runway.
But, don't just take my word for any of the above. Listen to the interview on Raio4's Today programme, 29th Dec on BBS Sounds:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0001t04
Interview begins at 1:10:10
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Old 31st Dec 2018, 16:37
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Originally Posted by KelvinD
No he didn't.

Something like 150 sightings were reported, including 4 from people on the airport roof and these 4 were confirmed by 2 police officers close to the runway.
But, don't just take my word for any of the above. Listen to the interview on Raio4's Today programme, 29th Dec on BBS Sounds:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0001t04
Interview begins at 1:10:10
Thank you. My scepticism is not absolute, but nevertheless sustainable for the following reasons:

"they would say that wouldn't they" ....... powerful vested interests desperate to justify what may be over-reaction to a sighting of .....

........... what and where exactly? To be sure of "over the airfield" we need triangulation at one time, otherwise size/range make observation difficult.

Not a scrap of film in 2018? This beggars belief, surely? Over and beyond the professionals on duty, over and beyond the smartfone public, the Media attended a. s. a .p? Not a sausage.

I am willing to be convinced by evidence, not eyewitnesses, who may well have been influenced [after the first "sighting"] by confirmation bias.

No physical evidence either.

My only qualification of relevance to the matter is having served on airfields [weather observer and forecaster] on and off for 40 years, including launching many a Met. balloon. I served at Gatwick too.
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