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Jet2 Emergency Landing at East Midlands

Old 4th Sep 2014, 10:15
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Jet2 Emergency Landing at East Midlands

Happened on 3rd September 2014 at 21:10 BST, according to the BBC:

BBC News - Jet2 plane makes emergency landing at East Midlands Airport

Emergency landing was made as there was smoke in the passenger cabin.

Interesting fact is that the cockpit to cabin intercom failed, according to witnesses. As a result, the evacuation sounded pretty chaotic, if the BBC is to be believed. It did not say how well the cabin crew handled the emergency, but I suspect people should not have been standing out on the wings.......
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if the BBC is to be believed. It did not say how well the cabin crew handled the emergency, but I suspect people should not have been standing out on the wings.......
The BBC report actually states:

Some passengers climbed out on to the wing
.....which is kind of difficult to avoid if you're evacuating the aircraft via the overwing exits...
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From the BBC report
A woman claimed her son managed to break a door and get out on to the wing of the plane.
- break!! I guess another one who didn't listen to the safety brief or read the card?

I can see no reference to anyone 'standing' on the wings?

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He said the crew opened the main doors at the back and front of the plane, where the inflatable chutes drop down, but not the ones over the wings.
- QED?

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Newsmongering rubbish

It really irks me reading such rubbish which purportedly comes from passengers. Then again, reality won't sell news.

xxxxx said one member of the cabin crew kept screaming over and over: "Get off the plane everybody now!"
Yes, because joe bloggs will generally freeze/panic in an emergency situation, so the cabin crew are trained to shout at people to get out.

He said the crew opened the main doors at the back and front of the plane, where the inflatable chutes drop down, but not the ones over the wings.
Yes, because the cabin crew are located at the main exit doors. It is the responsibility of the able bodied person sitting by the overwing exit to open it in the event an evacuation is required. You did read the briefing card, didn't you?

xxxxx forced one of the doors open, ran to the end of the wing and jumped down on to the tarmac.
1. It's an escape hatch, not a door.
2. It doesn't require any force to open.
3. Running to the end of the wing and jumping off is a surefire way to break your legs. Perhaps he meant that he slid down the back of the wing down the conveniently lowered flaps.

"The stewardess kicked the door down up the front. I remember her taking a great big lunge for it to smash it down."
Not surprising as a door with girt bar attached actually takes some force to get going in order to release the slide.

Another man said cabin crew lost control on the ground, which led to panic and people trying to escape.
It's all quite subjective. If you asked each passenger what happened, you'd have up to 148 different answers.
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If you want a good old chuckle about this incident head on over to The Mail online and have a read of the report and accompanying comments. Nothing but BS! Hovering planes, kids shouldn't be on plane as they should be back at school, you couldn't make it up....well apart from the mail and their readers!
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cabin crew lost control on the ground, which led to panic and people trying to escape.
Think: couple of people attempting to control large flock of sheep
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Lots of lovely compensation hangs on every descriptive word.
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Gotta love SLF when they have seen far too many claim adverts on TV. What has this country become???
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SBY Power Switch

Hi

I fly the 737-200 not the NG.

And I came to notice that if the Cockpit to Cabin Intercom or PA were not working.

In the 737-200 Evacuation Checklist one of the Items is to Put the SBY Power Switch to BAT to have Radios and Intercom when you shut down the engines for an EVAC.

Is this the same case for a 737NG, and if so, maybe in the heat of the moment the pilots forgot that Item.

Thanks for the clarifying.

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aless85,

i) The NG, if the standby power switch is left in auto, has automatic switchover of the standby AC and DC buses to the battery on the ground. The PA will work. This is a system difference from the -200, -3-500.

ii) The Jet2 737 in question looks like, from the BBC story, that it's G-GDFT, a -300 with winglets and so you might be correct.
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@shlittlenellie

Initially I thought it was an NG, Im too used too think Im the only one flying a dinosaur!!

Thanks!!
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Thank you for the last three posts, shlittlenellie and aless85. It's helpful to read something which is useful and informative. Sadly too often some emotion, perhaps paranoia or perhaps arrogance, drives others to choose to ridicule those perfectly normal folk who pay their good money, albeit indirectly, to employ those who mock them.
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Please accept my apologies, marchino61, wiggy and Flying Wild, for my sin of omission because yours too were thoughtful and helpful posts.
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Just seen a pic on BBC News, looks like R1 slide didnt deploy properly - maybe why they had/ result of having problems opening one of of the doors?

Speaking to the guys on last night and they said it was quite interesting to watch. Apparently the overwing exits were open even before CC had the rear doors open but they said that there was certainly no 'jumping off the wing' only people following the marked route and sliding down the flaps.
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"People were screaming to get their children off"

Sorry folks the Daily Mail has got hold of the story.

Jet2 passengers climb on plane wing from smoke-filled cabin after emergency landing | Mail Online
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From someone on board
Captain was in cabin prior or during descent checking under carriage status (lift carpet visual of "tube" believe they have mirrors to indicate some sort of allignment)
On stand evac command intercom failed so went to tannoy/ by that time slides had / may have been disarmed by CC and therefore poss not on station when evac command ccame
One slide didnt deploy correctly as highlighted
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I remember their RTO in GLA a couple of years back when passengers were horrified the the slides on the wing didn't deploy (!) and much was made about it at the time.

Look at video of the Southwest evacuation at LGA. Lots of people standing on a wing looking stunned and wondering where to go.

Yes in both incidents the issue may have been compounded by the lack of flap 40 selection, but I'd still expect them to be able to slide off the trailing edge wing root/flaps.

Modern day society though. It's always someone else's fault and you don't need to take responsibility for your actions.

I'm intrigued. Three minor incidents, a smallish fleet yet they've had three evacuations in the last two years. In this instance it seems a little half hearted. Two slides deployed, and at least one over wing opened.

Be interested to hear the report. Evacuations seem to happen all too often these days and they can be extremely dangerous.
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Yes in both incidents the issue may have been compounded by the lack of flap 40 selection, but I'd still expect them to be able to slide off the trailing edge wing root/flaps.
Flaps went to 40 in GLA.
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And yet they still stood there like stunned mullets
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Flaps 40 at GLA, no flaps at BLK and it looks like an intermediate setting at EMA though it may be F40 - difficult to tell on the BBC pictures.
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