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Airliner escorted by RAF into Manchester Airport

Old 8th Aug 2014, 18:49
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If there had been the slightest hint, then I'd fully agree with the various points.
Never underestimate your enemy. The 9/11 hijackers didn't tip their hand about crashing into buildings even after they killed the crews. They assured the passengers they were returning to the airport (recorded on UA 93 when they keyed the ATC rather than the PA). It was only cell phone calls that informed those passengers that they were not following the prior hijack MO, prompting the passenger counter-attack.

Using one member of a hijack team, posing as a lone drunk or unstable individual, to frame the situation and flush out any unknown counter-measures would be a smart move before changing the plot. Prepare for the worse and hope for the best is simple prudence.

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Old 8th Aug 2014, 19:57
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cracking a light stick at night = covert?

Stuff it between the BLACKOUT blind and window.
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Old 8th Aug 2014, 21:29
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If the only tool in your box is a missile armed interceptor, must every problem be a suspected hijack?
A missile armed interceptor isn't the only tool in the box of course, in this case it was a mere contingency for a non-UK carrier inbound to the UK with a very loosely defined threat situation on board. I'm not sure why people can't grasp this. We were an awfully, awfully long way from a shoot down of a civil airliner and the whole thing was relatively routine. The Typhoon was there just in case, what's wrong with that?

Jmmilner offers a good case as to why it's not that bad an idea to ensure that you don't routinely underestimate loosley defined threat situations.
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Old 9th Aug 2014, 19:15
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Was only one Typhoon untilised or was there another shadowing the formation?
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Old 25th Aug 2014, 11:54
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According to a Goat poster, two QRA aircraft took off from Coningsby but only one was seen close to the target, er, airliner.
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Old 25th Aug 2014, 13:38
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The other probably behind at missile range?
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Old 26th Aug 2014, 13:17
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That's the implication. Not ideal, over a populated area, but if needs must it would I suppose be a question of which was the lesser evil...

There's a cruddiest place in the country thread on the Goat - Morecambe, Blackpool and Barrow have been mentioned, although each would have required a substantial overshoot.

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Old 28th Aug 2014, 09:53
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The second jet is there as back up to the first in case it goes `tech` or has to pull off to be `tankered `.No more no less....the rest are urban myths
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 14:29
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The second jet is there as back up to the first in case it goes `tech`
I thought he was there to take pretty pictures of the offending aircraft and the QRA.
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