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Old 28th Jun 2014, 08:41
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Ryanair incident at Stansted?

Apologies if this is old news but my Twitter feed has come up with a post suggesting a Ryanair aircraft has lost its wingtip/winglet after a 'coming together' this morning....

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I don't know if you've seen the photo, but here it is... https://twitter.com/imhoturenot/stat...63191353896960
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How is the other plane?
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The other aircraft also was a FR which was being pushed back by Swissport ground crew looks to have stabiliser damage.
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Ryanair incident at Stanstead?

We're they both pushing back at same time ? What stands were they on
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Ryanair incident at Stanstead?

There aren't any wing walkers , only a tail man stopping traffic, and a headset man who ......really should have seen it coming
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The aircraft with winglet damage was inbound traffic. The aircraft with rudder and stabiliser damage was on pushback.
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inbound was HHN-STN EI-ENL
outbound was STN-WMI EI-DAN
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Wing walker-tail man

Perhaps the terminology might vary, but the purpose should be the same. One tail man could have trouble watching all the aircraft bits and with the sun could be difficult to see and be seen.
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What does Ryanair have to do with anything? I seem to remember plenty of ground collision incidents from other airlines in the recent past (AA/IB, WN/Jet Blue, BA, etc). These things happen all the time.
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Ryanair incident at Stanstead?

The tail man just watches the road until the tail goes over the double whites, then he walks off, he/she doesn't stay there for the duration of the pushback. The person on the headset is called the crew chief for a reason !!!!

And it's about Ryanair because it was 2 Ryanair's that had the accident !!
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Looking down the various expert opinions on Twatter I came across this gem...

John C ‏@johnthestatto 6h
@imhoturenot @Ryanair even without the winglet the aircraft probably flyable but it'd be a bumpy ride and v fuel inefficient.
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Ryanair incident at Stanstead?

Prob a Ryanair engineer :-D. Still......at least he didn't say the same for the one with the horizontal stab with the winglet stuck in it
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Looking down the various expert opinions on Twatter I came across this gem...

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@imhoturenot @Ryanair even without the winglet the aircraft probably flyable but it'd be a bumpy ride and v fuel inefficient.
Doesn't sound so unreasonable-

There was a HiFly A330 that jammed its winglet under the wing of another aircraft at Ascension Island in January 13, they took the damaged winglet off and continued on to the Falklands a few hours later with one winglet on and one missing. Not hearsay - I watched it taxi in as I was meeting a passenger off it.
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One missing winglet would be 10 day MEL.
No big problem imho.
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At the risk of sounding like a pedant, would this not be CDL rather than MEL?
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Sharklets

These are Sharklets not Winglets, totally different kettle of fish w.r.t. the CDL.
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Blended winglets -Boeing
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Now on the BBC

BBC News - Ryanair jets damaged in Stansted Airport collision

Hope the wife does not see it. we go holiday next week and she hates flying
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Essex Police said it had conducted "routine breath tests" on both pilots after the incident, but there was no evidence of alcohol consumption.
I presume breath tests were conducted on all other personnel involved in the incident including push back crew, ATC etc?
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