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Ryanair incident at Stanstead?

Old 28th Jun 2014, 18:34
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There was a HiFly A330 .. .. they took the damaged winglet off and continued on to the Falklands a few hours later with one winglet on and one missing.
Strange, I seem to remember that on the a330 if one winglet is missing the other one has to be removed as well for dispatch. (as opposed to other aircraft like the 744)
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Old 28th Jun 2014, 19:13
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Golfyankeesierra - re.taking the other winglet off on the A330 at Ascension
Yes, I would have thought it would make sense, but my Dad was a passenger on that flight. He watched the wingtip get jammed under the other aircraft, they then had to sit there for a couple of hours as they didn't want the pax getting off and the aircraft rising up and making the damage worse. Think in the end they refuelled asymmetrically while the pax were still on, to get the stuck wing unjammed.
I watched it taxi in when it arrived in the Falklands and can assure you it only had one winglet on.
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Old 28th Jun 2014, 19:45
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inbound was HHN-STN EI-ENL
outbound was STN-WMI EI-DAN
What is the source? Both Ryanair and passengers claims that there was an aircraft change on STN-WMI flight.

My guess it that it was EI-DLJ. Anyone can confirm?
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Old 28th Jun 2014, 19:55
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No doubt we'll all be seeing who foxmoth really is in due course.
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Old 28th Jun 2014, 20:44
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EI-ENL & EI-DLJ - the two involved.
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Old 28th Jun 2014, 20:59
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I presume breath tests were conducted on all other personnel involved in the incident including push back crew, ATC etc?
Not necessary as they are always professional and blameless.
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Old 28th Jun 2014, 21:22
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If they breath tested two pilots, why didn't they test the other two?
Obviously nobody was drunk, but someone made a mistake.
How will I manage to wait until all the facts are released.
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Old 28th Jun 2014, 22:03
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No doubt we'll all be seeing who foxmoth really is in due course
I have enough posts on Pp for those that know me to know who I am, at least I have more info in my profile than you do! - I have no connection with Ryanair - and never wish too!
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Old 28th Jun 2014, 22:14
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correct, as written above, Lido had already changed for -DAN, which operated the rest of the day.
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Old 28th Jun 2014, 22:37
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I really feel for the ground crew in this one. I don't think RYR have an understanding attitude to people who are on "interesting" end of an incident, especially if they are holding the cosh. I hope they hang on to their jobs. Now here's a question: Is there really any need for more than one ground crew member to be involved in a push-back? My experience is that the fewer there are the better and that is because of focus. Tug drivers know where the "bits" are and when performing a pushback by by themselves, even from tight spots, can spend more time driving and less time looking out for a weird and wonderful signals from colleagues.
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Old 29th Jun 2014, 04:09
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One passenger on the Warsaw-bound flight said on Twitter: "Huge loud crashing noise and totally felt the crush sitting at the back.
Thank God it only hit the wing as if it was the body of the plane it'd been apocalypse."

Dear oh dear what a thing to say.
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Old 29th Jun 2014, 06:07
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Now the DM have got hold of the story

Two Ryanair jets collide at Stansted Airport causing delays and passenger evacuations | Mail Online

Passengers were evacuated and flights were delayed for three hours
For those in the know, were there any evacuations and were flights held up for 3 hours?
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Old 29th Jun 2014, 06:27
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Hope the wife does not see it. we go holiday next week and she hates flying

If flying Ryanair she may have reasons, talking to a girl yesterday who used to be in their ops and it was not a nice tale!
No, we are not used to handle them on the ground. Not a airline I would want to fly.
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Old 29th Jun 2014, 08:47
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You can't CDL a winglet on a 737.
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Old 29th Jun 2014, 09:16
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I'm surprised no passengers 'thought they were going to die!''
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Old 29th Jun 2014, 09:26
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Ryanair incident at Stanstead?

Flights were probably held if for 3 hours while they sourced and prepared 2 replacements.


You will probably find everyone in the UK use a 2 man (or more) pushback crew. At the end of the day, the headset man is the eyes and ears for the PIC,and to relay information. Regardless of ATC clearance, you survey the area behind the ac before releasing the brakes, and stand by until it is clear to push.the trouble with he FR operation at STN is it isn't clearly visible from the tower, and would rely on SMR and the ground crew doing their job unfortunately
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Old 29th Jun 2014, 09:57
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Originally Posted by crewmeal View Post
Standards are slipping at the Mail. They forgot to tell us the combined value of the pax, crew and ground handlers houses.
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Old 29th Jun 2014, 11:30
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At least the Mail managed to spell Stansted correctly, which several here could not achieve.
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Old 29th Jun 2014, 14:45
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You will probably find everyone in the UK use a 2 man (or more) pushback crew.
I know. I the UK, five plus the driver is my record now. Yet most other European stations use fewer people, if not just one person. My point is that a tug driver left to get on to do the job by them self has always done a better job than a team; and that is over several thousand flights. The ONLY time I have ever had a problem is in UK with large pushback teams. I have never, ever had a problem with a singe crewed TBL tug. Apart from a direct communication with the driver an added advantage is that the driver doesn't have to look of for the rest of the crew. This is a classic case of less-is-more.
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Old 29th Jun 2014, 17:32
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G-ARZG: RYR taxy speeds are very reasonable, ever since the 800 was introduced. That is one of the effects of the OFDM programme. Granted, the 200s were taxied pretty swiftly (often very fast), but rarely the 800s.

It's amazing that the Mail journalist, despite seeming considering himself a well informed expert, cant tell the difference between a runway and a minor taxiway in a cul-de-sac. As for the claim of an evacuation, I haven't heard that elsewhere, unless every orderly disembarkation is now considered an evacuation. That rag really should be shut down for continuous libel - they are incapable of printing a single factual story.
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