Jet2 evacuation at Blackpool
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Let's get one thing straight. Given the training system in the UK and the "Daily Wail" second-guessing interesting events (which I'm about to do), I'm not going to criticise the crew, just the system which they and the rest of operate in. I think AS had summed up the situation pretty well.
So now lets put the RFF category into context. Blackpool is Category 4 which means that the RFF appliances should be able to deliver between 2,400 and 3,600 litres (min. 40 liters/sec) of water and 1,800 to 2,600 litres (min. 30 litres/sec) of foam per minute. Now, please tell me where I'm going wrong. With that kind of discharge rate, even if the wheels are on fire and blazing away, a professional fire crew with that discharge rate should be able to knock that fire out. With hindsight, the advice to evacuate was probably not the best one.
And as I said with my first post, maybe we should reconsider these "Precautionary - Better safe than sorry - Can't be too safe evacuations - Safety First" evacuations. I'm sure we can often be safer by doing nothing.
So now lets put the RFF category into context. Blackpool is Category 4 which means that the RFF appliances should be able to deliver between 2,400 and 3,600 litres (min. 40 liters/sec) of water and 1,800 to 2,600 litres (min. 30 litres/sec) of foam per minute. Now, please tell me where I'm going wrong. With that kind of discharge rate, even if the wheels are on fire and blazing away, a professional fire crew with that discharge rate should be able to knock that fire out. With hindsight, the advice to evacuate was probably not the best one.
And as I said with my first post, maybe we should reconsider these "Precautionary - Better safe than sorry - Can't be too safe evacuations - Safety First" evacuations. I'm sure we can often be safer by doing nothing.
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It is quite clear that you have not taken the time to read my posts on this subject, from the very start I have said that the flight crew, cabin crew and fire services did a very good job, clearly the flight crew ordered the evacuation on the advice of the fire crew ( and did not put the flaps to 40 because that would get in the way of the fire crew) the cabin crew got the passengers off the aircraft without anyone going out of the over wing exits and landing on top of a potential fire.
My statements about Skydrol not supporting combustion are true, that is why it was developed to replace MIL 5606 in high pressure hydraulic systems, I think you have demonstrated a difficulty in understanding the difference between a fluid that burned when heated and one that continues to burn on its own account when that heat source is removed.
So before you accuse me of being armchair quarterbacking I would suggest that you read and digest all I have written on this subject and you will be forced to the conclusion ( unless you are just a mindless troll) that I am fully supportive of the actions taken by all involved in this incident.
My statements about Skydrol not supporting combustion are true, that is why it was developed to replace MIL 5606 in high pressure hydraulic systems, I think you have demonstrated a difficulty in understanding the difference between a fluid that burned when heated and one that continues to burn on its own account when that heat source is removed.
So before you accuse me of being armchair quarterbacking I would suggest that you read and digest all I have written on this subject and you will be forced to the conclusion ( unless you are just a mindless troll) that I am fully supportive of the actions taken by all involved in this incident.
