Malaysian Airlines MH370 contact lost
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Yes I understand the free feed is several hours old but the status as of 3 hours ago was 'stopped' NOT 'underway'.
Another interesting tidbit
HMS Echo, Tireless Work Round the Clock to Find Malaysian Airliner MH370 >> Naval Today
HMS Echo’s hi-tech sonar has been specially adapted so it can pick up any transmissions on the black box’s frequency – this is the first time Echo’s sonar has been used this way and so far it has located several possible contacts – but sadly none of them proved to be from MH370’s black box.
ie from the Haixun01 contacts a couple of days ago
Status is stopped in vessel details box.
Another interesting tidbit
HMS Echo, Tireless Work Round the Clock to Find Malaysian Airliner MH370 >> Naval Today
HMS Echo’s hi-tech sonar has been specially adapted so it can pick up any transmissions on the black box’s frequency – this is the first time Echo’s sonar has been used this way and so far it has located several possible contacts – but sadly none of them proved to be from MH370’s black box.
ie from the Haixun01 contacts a couple of days ago
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That was HMAS Toowoomba as far as I could see it tracked straight back out to the debris search area. One would assume that it would be nearer to Ocean Shield or Echo if it was going to transfer AUV's... [or launch and recover them itself]
You would think that the Germans and / or US would claim the publicity if they where here already...
You would think that the Germans and / or US would claim the publicity if they where here already...
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Some massive recovery ship with crane capable of 500,000lb lifting capacity arrives on-site
If they do recover the fuselage to near the surface then a lift not that difficult.
Whole destroyers and frigates have been brought home on barges. IIRC HMS Nottingham was one and USS Cole another.
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This article was printed on 30/03/2014
MH370 crash: Deep-sea search tools ready for deployment - Nation | The Star Online
This article was printed on 30/03/2014
Three deep-sea submarines used to search for wreckage of the crashed Air France Flight 447 have also been sent to aid in the search for MH370.
The three "Abyss" type submarines can dive to depths of 6,000m and stay submerged for up to 24 hours.
The three "Abyss" type submarines can dive to depths of 6,000m and stay submerged for up to 24 hours.
Forgive me but is it at all significant that the area where Echo is now 'stopped' looks a paler blue than the surrounding ocean?
Does this mean it is shallower?
I am hoping this might mean recovery would be easier than if it were outside of this area.
Does this mean it is shallower?
I am hoping this might mean recovery would be easier than if it were outside of this area.
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Does anyone know if the optic fibre repeaters on the underwater submarine cable SEA-ME-WE3, which runs from Perth through the search area to Jakarta, emit any noise? They are powered by internal DC power. Could they be causing interference?
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http://www.marinetraffic.com received its last data feed 3 minutes ago and its showing HMS Echo stopped on the border of the search area and Ocean Shield moving towards its location at 1.6kn.
Towing the pinger locator again???
Towing the pinger locator again???
Props are for boats!
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Orbit jet,
I'm guessing HMS ECHO is all ears at the moment listening for the ULB all engines stopped. And I think your right about Ocean Shield still towing the TPL-25.
Live Ships Map - AIS - Vessel Traffic and Positions - AIS Marine Traffic received its last data feed 3 minutes ago and its showing HMS Echo stopped on the border of the search area and Ocean Shield moving towards its location at 1.6kn.
Towing the pinger locator again???
Towing the pinger locator again???
I'm guessing HMS ECHO is all ears at the moment listening for the ULB all engines stopped. And I think your right about Ocean Shield still towing the TPL-25.
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Originally Posted by Sheep Guts
HMS ECHO is all ears at the moment listening for the ULB all engines stopped.
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I am most likely wrong here, but there is a picture on Unconfirmed report says Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 black box has been found | News.com.au posted 20 minutes ago showing the BlueFin-21 being lowered from the Ocean Shield at sea (I am guessing its Ocean Shield as its a red ship).
its interesting and maybe it has been deployed, but then again the photo may only mean there getting it ready.
@bobstay, its not moving and hasn't for a while and they said it would be used to listen at one of the PC
its interesting and maybe it has been deployed, but then again the photo may only mean there getting it ready.
@bobstay, its not moving and hasn't for a while and they said it would be used to listen at one of the PC
Yes I understand the free feed is several hours old but the status as of 3 hours ago was 'stopped' NOT 'underway'
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Putrajaya starts investigating...
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It is doing under 0.1kn its basically stopped, it most likely has engines shut off and is slowly moving with the current.
I have seen the status stopped numerous times on various vessels when they are basically engines off but not anchored and a lot of fishing vessels show this.
For example, http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/ind.../direction:asc this is history for a NZ fishing vessel.
Unless she has a very long anchor rode then she is certainly underway. There is no AIS navigation status code for 'stopped', so presumably that is the website filling in the details from the SOG rather than a real status change. I wouldn't read too much into it.
I have seen the status stopped numerous times on various vessels when they are basically engines off but not anchored and a lot of fishing vessels show this.
For example, http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/ind.../direction:asc this is history for a NZ fishing vessel.
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THE Prime Minister has given the most detailed information about where the crucial black box flight recorders from missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 are expected to be.
Tony Abbott gave Chinese President Xi Jinping a private and detailed briefing in Beijing about the latest on the search for the missing Boeing 777-200ER aircraft which had 154 Chinese people on board.
The MP told the President before a State dinner with the Australian premiers at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing — an unprecedented audience — that search teams led by the Australian ship Ocean Shield had narrowed down the area in the Indian Ocean where pings from the flight recorders are being received to a grid of around 10km by 10km.
He told President Xi that there is now a high degree of confidence that the signals were the black boxes.
Tony Abbott gave Chinese President Xi Jinping a private and detailed briefing in Beijing about the latest on the search for the missing Boeing 777-200ER aircraft which had 154 Chinese people on board.
The MP told the President before a State dinner with the Australian premiers at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing — an unprecedented audience — that search teams led by the Australian ship Ocean Shield had narrowed down the area in the Indian Ocean where pings from the flight recorders are being received to a grid of around 10km by 10km.
He told President Xi that there is now a high degree of confidence that the signals were the black boxes.
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If the FDR & CVR are revered: just a hunch
Just a hunch: if the boxes are ever recovered they will show that the pilots were overcome by some sort of toxic fumes, that the origin and nature of these fumes will remain a mystery. Malaysian Airlines and the way whatever cargo aboard was handled will be blameless. Ditto for Boeing. Ditto fort the pilots, who will be remembered as professionals who attempted to save their jet, and the passengers, in impossible circumstances.
Will this be the truth? Perhaps. But, given the various reputations and commercial interests at stake, the question merits asking.
Remember Habsheim. http://www.crashdehabsheim.net/CRenglish%20phot.pdf
Will this be the truth? Perhaps. But, given the various reputations and commercial interests at stake, the question merits asking.
Remember Habsheim. http://www.crashdehabsheim.net/CRenglish%20phot.pdf
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Your source is??
According marine traffic this drill rig is currently in Bay of Bengal stationary and has not moved since 4/4/14
Live Ships Map - AIS - Vessel Traffic and Positions - AIS Marine Traffic
The now-reflagged & renamed Glomar Explorer has been reported to be enroute to the current search area.
According marine traffic this drill rig is currently in Bay of Bengal stationary and has not moved since 4/4/14
Live Ships Map - AIS - Vessel Traffic and Positions - AIS Marine Traffic
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I wouldn't expect many changes considering what a rare occurrence this is , the recorders do there job well .
If they end up being switched off then it was a deliberate act , case closed.
Nobody will spend money on Satellite bandwidth for storing what would mostly be useless information.
If they end up being switched off then it was a deliberate act , case closed.
Nobody will spend money on Satellite bandwidth for storing what would mostly be useless information.