Malaysian Airlines MH370 contact lost
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If it is the aircraft is it possible to salvage the recorders in 20,000ft of water or more.
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I keep hearing these "expert" commentators on TV, saying they don't know why the 406mhz signal hasn't been detected from at least one of the ELT's, while they are talking about the plane being in the Indian Ocean. It's because 406mhz won't go through water!!! The ELT is for a crash on land. Why can't at least one of them know this? Most of them are experts on many aspects of airplanes and crashes, but they shouldn't make out like the ELT's will work through water!
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Originally Posted by Staggerwing 
Hunter 58,
Early in this blog, I made a post concerning radar tracking by naval vessels that may have been close to the flight path of the aircraft. I did not receive a reply from anyone at the time and maybe you could answer the question: would naval vessels be able to track the aircraft using primary returns and, if so, what would be the range if the aircraft remained at a FL greater than FL200?
I was assuming that there would have been some naval vessels, from various countries, operating somewhere in the area believed to have been overflown by the aircraft.
Regardless I would think it would be safe to assume the U.S. has satellite coverage of everything that moves in that neighborhood.
Hunter 58,
Early in this blog, I made a post concerning radar tracking by naval vessels that may have been close to the flight path of the aircraft. I did not receive a reply from anyone at the time and maybe you could answer the question: would naval vessels be able to track the aircraft using primary returns and, if so, what would be the range if the aircraft remained at a FL greater than FL200?
I was assuming that there would have been some naval vessels, from various countries, operating somewhere in the area believed to have been overflown by the aircraft.
Regardless I would think it would be safe to assume the U.S. has satellite coverage of everything that moves in that neighborhood.
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VH-TGG is owned by the Gandel Group. John Gandel owns a large private property business. He is a multi-billionaire. It looks like the aircraft was chartered by AMSA.
DOES ANYONE KNOW if malyasian air has a pilot's union? IFALP?
wondering why we haven't heard from them if they have one?
wondering why we haven't heard from them if they have one?
We don't know if the pilots were HERO or ZERO, and 'suggestions' that the pilots might have been implicated in some deliberate way are perfectly valid at the moment but until any unproven allegations are made against them the Union has no role to play - yet.
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In spite of the SNR “signal-to-noise ratio”, I prefer to get my info on this forum rather than on the TV. I know I will read everything that is said or published anywhere and whether it is, or becomes, a reliable “known”.
Tonight I was glancing at a news article on the web and saw a reference to the info that it has been confirmed that there were multiple “pings” recorded (a deduction here many days ago). But what was new to me was that it was reported the later “pings” indicated (in addition to what has been the accepted data) that the aircraft was “over water” and that was a/the reason the search had shifted to the southern arc.
I didn’t bother to mentally record where I saw this because I was sure I would see it on these pages; but I see nothing. Is this more press speculation and made-up “facts”?
Tonight I was glancing at a news article on the web and saw a reference to the info that it has been confirmed that there were multiple “pings” recorded (a deduction here many days ago). But what was new to me was that it was reported the later “pings” indicated (in addition to what has been the accepted data) that the aircraft was “over water” and that was a/the reason the search had shifted to the southern arc.
I didn’t bother to mentally record where I saw this because I was sure I would see it on these pages; but I see nothing. Is this more press speculation and made-up “facts”?
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I think so. I don't see any way the satellite data could really show the aircraft was over water... banking between mountains, maybe, from the signal level and dropouts, but any reasonable altitude over water should be pretty much perfect conditions, just like flying high over land.
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...that the aircraft was “over water”...
