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Malaysian Airlines MH370 contact lost

Old 11th Mar 2014, 11:26
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However, there are many airlines across the world who still allow the crew to smoke on the flightdeck. It is a continuing problem.
Only for the lungs of other pilot. Smokes and Fire hazard is a total red herring.
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Old 11th Mar 2014, 11:27
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A CO-PILOT at the controls of the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 invited a Melbourne tourist and her friend into the cockpit where he smoked
OMG! I've done that but never crashed. Very lucky; that's all I can say
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Old 11th Mar 2014, 11:29
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Yes as a young F/O I've invited pretty young things to sit in the jump seat on 737's in Malaysia as well ( 23 years ago )
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Old 11th Mar 2014, 11:30
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I REALLY hope for an outcome where it is made abundantly clear that the pilots did everything in their power to bring this airplane home safely. Our industry is becoming infested with insincere operators and oversight is becoming more and more diluted.

Either that they were fighting to their last breath in case of a hi-jacking OR that they did everything possible to bring back a damaged airplane to KL. Maybe with no electrics (no comms, no transponder/ACARS) possibly smoke, fire, pressurization problems - all while trying to find their way home relying on ground features only, finding and following the West Coast down to KL... I hope...
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Old 11th Mar 2014, 11:31
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Anyone else notice how sarcastic the police inspector was when he said they were "co-operating with Chinese" and then laughed about some plan or similar?

They don't seem to be taking it very seriously, which only adds fuel to the fire of things we aren't aware about (yet).
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Old 11th Mar 2014, 11:32
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Glen, immediately to the west of peninsular Malaysia is the rather large Indonesian island of Sumatra.
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Old 11th Mar 2014, 11:33
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Interpol rules out terrorist attack: BBC News - Malaysia Airlines MH370: Stolen passports 'no terror link'
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Old 11th Mar 2014, 11:33
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Just as a side note, acknowledging the guys on stolen passports were probably not as significant as initially thought, aren't there less risky routes to Europe from SE Asia than going via China?

Wouldn't be my first choice. Why would they go via Beijing?
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Old 11th Mar 2014, 11:40
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I have been in Asia for over a decade. An Asian person laughing or smiling/joking may often suggest nervousness rather than humour. Please correct me if you think I am wrong about this. Still not had an answer to: has anyone checked the Paracels yet?
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Old 11th Mar 2014, 11:46
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This incident comes to mind:

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/4...zhma-komi.html
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Old 11th Mar 2014, 11:47
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Originally Posted by Mixture
Oh dear....

You evidently do not realise that unless you are paying a commercial satellite operator $$$ for a bespoke tasking, ALL satellite imagery you see on the public internet, and especially all imagery you see for free is taken from historical archives .... if you are lucky it might be a few months old, but most imagery is a couple of years old at least.
Oh dear.... you evidently don't realise DigitalGlobe, which owns Tomnod, retasked two of its 5 satellites to photograph the area on Sunday.


Edit: But Tomnod's been wilting under the load for a while now, but did serve something like 22000 images while it was up.

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Old 11th Mar 2014, 11:49
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Can the B777 have both IDGs turned off and still operate? What would said system affect?
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Old 11th Mar 2014, 11:54
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Tim - Highly unlikely as both those islands have large Australian Government presence on them and we would know they have rocked up there already.
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Old 11th Mar 2014, 11:55
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Originally Posted by Heliads
I have been in Asia for over a decade. An Asian person laughing or smiling/joking may often suggest nervousness rather than humour. Please correct me if you think I am wrong about this. Still not had an answer to: has anyone checked the Paracels yet?
Absolutely true, if you complain to someone in Asia, first thing they will do is laugh at you. But it's for your benefit, to help stop you getting angry and losing face.

The Paracels are very carefully monitored by China. Furthermore as has been pointed out, the Malaysians have admitted that the a/c flew over the Malay peninsula towards Indonesia.
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Old 11th Mar 2014, 11:58
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Elephant in the room. Another Silk Air 185, LAM 470, Egypt 990? Vertical impact at >M1.0 would leave very little in terms of a debris field.
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Old 11th Mar 2014, 12:06
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Elephant in the room. Another Silk Air 185, LAM 470, Egypt 990? Vertical impact at >M1.0 would leave very little in terms of a debris field.
Disregarding surface tension of course..
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Old 11th Mar 2014, 12:07
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I was just thinking very big picture (Tom Clancy) stuff.


I think we are all scenario exhausted.


I am sure the truth has already been discussed in one of these 1700 posts


Just which one remains elusive.


I still feel we are not been told everything.
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Old 11th Mar 2014, 12:16
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Disregarding surface tension of course..
The resulting confetti will get lost in the trillions of plastic grocery bags already floating in those waters.
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Old 11th Mar 2014, 12:16
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@ Tim Hamilton re "I am sure the truth has already been discussed in one of these 1700 posts"

You may safely assume 1900+ posts, adding all posts that have been edited away, such as the Ukraine Theory, or the Gold Bullion cargo manifest theory
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Old 11th Mar 2014, 12:25
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"Michelson interference? As in the Michelson-Morley experiment on the speed of light that demonstrated the lack of an ether (or that by a coincidence we happen to be stationary relative to the ether... always wondered why they discounted that possibility so readily -- okay only being tongue-in-cheek here ). I'm not quite sure what that has to do with underwater acoustics..."




YRP, Michelson's interference theory is about frequencies and what happens when they mix with one another, etc. It applies to light waves, radio waves and sound waves. It's the basis of the heterodyne circuit I wrote about, that's used in radios, fiber optic telecommunication, as well as sound beacon detection equipment, allowing it to focus on only one frequency, as sensitivity is lost, as the band you're listening for widens.

Anyway, My whole point was the submarine in the AF447 search was not set up for finding the 37.5khz pinger, and that I hoped something was learned from that, and we shouldn't assume a submarine is the best way to listen for a pinger, unless it's specifically set up for it. This disappearance is puzzling. Maybe more is known, but just not leaked to the press. Maybe the governments in that part of the world, don't leak info, but instead, wait 'till they have all their stuff in one sock to report. Maybe the western press is spoiled by it's leaky governments!
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