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Malaysian Airlines MH370 contact lost

Old 9th Mar 2014, 06:54
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Ok, so where is there a flat surface long enough to land the plane - and out of the way where it won't be seen?

90% of Mongolia, 80% of Siberia, 75% of Australia?

Unfortunately it is more than likely somewhere close to where they are looking in the South China Sea.
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 06:56
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Malaysia Airlines says the aircraft had been repaired by Boeing and was certified safe to fly. They dismissed the possibility of a technical problem.
JAL123 had been repaired by Boeing, and had been certified safe to fly.

Please note that I am not suggesting the idea that MH370 was lost as a result of post-repair structural failure. I do not believe there is enough information at this point to advance any hypothesis. We need more hard data. There is very little hard data at this time.

I am merely noting that there is historical precedent for an inadequate manufacturer repair leading to an in-flight structural failure, with hull loss, and with massive loss of life. It is one of many different possibilities.
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 06:57
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As the flight was a code share with China Southern might it be possible that they were the intended target if it proves to be a terrorist action ?

Not all hijackers are smart, and they wouldn't be the first people to find themselves on a different airline to which they thought they'd be flying.
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 06:57
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This is becoming a joke were it not so tragic for victims and family.

"Looking in the West of the country" must be a mistake on the part of a reporter. What was probably intended to be a reference to looking to the West of the presumed crash site has been distorted.

There is no reason to look to the western side of the country at all and apart from a couple of airports there is really no place for a 777 to land and it is heavily populated

Don't suspect the Malaysians of a sinister cover-up. They lack the skill for that. Incompetence in most things is their strong suit.

The plane would have crossed a large area of mountainous jungle on its route over central Malaysia but I believe it was still being tracked after it crossed the coast
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 07:03
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"Looking in the West of the country" must be a mistake on the part of a reporter. What was probably intended to be a reference to looking to the West of the presumed crash site has been distorted.

There is no reason to look to the western side of the country at all and apart from a couple of airports there is really no place for a 777 to land and it is heavily populated
No, I was watching the interview. The Malaysian commanding general specifically said that they had placed aircraft to look for debris off the coast of west Malaysia, and he specifically mentioned Penang.
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 07:04
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Over at airliners.net they seem to have found pictures of the fake Italian's and the fake Austrian's eTickets.

Some ominous things here....

- Tickets numbers sequential
- Issued by same agency on 3/6 (per airliners.net)
- Exact same fare
- Different destinations but both via KUL-PEK-AMS-(final)

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Old 9th Mar 2014, 07:10
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So to continue the conspiracy theory of a hidden agenda, since facts are a little slow...

After
2 stolen passports escalated to 4, now back to only 2
a debris field that is quite likely to be lit glasshouses on land
a possible turnback supported by military radar confirming civil radar
upcoming dusk

What's next to push this well into tomorrow?
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 07:12
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Could buoy data could help locate the plane? Seems if the plane went into the sea at least some disturbance could be noted in a shallow sea. Tsunami watch systems:

National Data Buoy Center
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 07:14
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Let's figure this out

It's the middle of the afternoon over here, and I am not about to shut off my systems to go to sleep. Taiwan lost a young lady, her husband, and two children on one of "my" Boeing aircraft, and the FBI called me at 6AM looking for any info I might have.

I am sending the investigators to the Leshan (Taiwan) PAVE PAWS site to see which areas of an expanded SAR their tracking might have already ruled out.
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 07:15
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If the a/c was turned back ,would the nearest 'big' airport be Penang?

This might explain why the search area is now including seas west of Penang, which is heading towards indonesian airspace.over 200 miles west of the last reported radar contact.
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 07:15
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Originally Posted by StormyKnight
2 stolen passports escalated to 4, now back to only 2
I think that "clarification" was just that only 2 passports were identified as stolen. Likely they may well still be investigating 4 passengers onboard.
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 07:17
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Originally Posted by Tim Hamilton
With the eyes of the world and the pressure from the media on MH

There truth will come out soon.
MISSING MH370: Chinese rescue force reaches suspected site of missing plane - Latest - New Straits Times

BEIJING: A Chinese coast guard vessel has entered the waters around the suspected site of the missing Malaysian plane to carry out a rescue mission.

As of 11:30 am on Sunday, the vessel "China Coast Guard 3411" has entered the area and was about 45 nautical miles from where the plane was believed to be when it lost contact with ground control, according to China's State Oceanic Administration.

It is expected to reach the spot at about 2 pm on Sunday.

All crew members on board the ship are now working in six teams in charge of lookout, search, communication, medical treatment, motorboat rescue and logistic supplies, according to the administration.
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 07:18
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Don't suspect the Malaysians of a sinister cover-up. They lack the skill for that. Incompetence in most things is their strong suit.
nice to bring bigotry into the thread.




Nope not bigotry. Personal experience of working with Malaysian government's public and private companies and organisations for many years.

Not having a go at the people mate just the bureaucrats and politicians.
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 07:19
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Well, I'm impressed how someone can find the tickets. I wonder if those running the investigation have done the same. I know we are building conspiracy theories, but two guys with stolen passports just happen to buy a ticket, one after the other, at the same place on the same day. Coincidence? I don't think so.
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07:06 GMT - Military activity - Colleague Catherine Barton reports considerable activity at the Vietnamese military airport at Ho Chi Minh City, where an AFP news team is waiting to board a military AN26 plane.
An amphibious helicopter transfered from Vietnam's deep sea port Cam Ranh for the search and rescue mission, has just landed, while soldiers can be seen moving equipment. The AN26 the team are waiting to get on is also full of life jackets and other rescue equipment
Malaysia Airlines investigation: Live Report
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 07:20
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Western Malaysia - the land mass where KL is located.

Eastern Malaysia - the part in Borneo

The plane would have crossed over the east coast of Western Malaysia
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 07:30
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The two etickets can't be verified. That's the problem, too many people these days like to manufacture stories for their own sick pleasure.
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 07:38
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Originally Posted by bille1319
Has he never heard about the unexplained loss of aircraft in the Bermuda triangle? Could this not be something similar?
You've got to wonder how Subang Air Traffic Control can lose contact 36 hours ago, and only just now SAR vessels are making their way to site?

Did Subang Air Traffic Control actually raise any alarms when they lost contact?
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 07:39
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Don't suspect the Malaysians of a sinister cover-up. They lack the skill for that. Incompetence in most things is their strong suit.
There was a case of the murder of a mongolian lady who was kidnapped and blown to bits by 'hired men' who turned out to be some shadowy part of the armed services. The case came to light because of a cab driver who made a police report because he wasn't paid for the trip as she was kidnapped. The kidnappers' get away vehicle had govt plates. Somehow the agencies didn't get the memo to cover up this neatly and it took a minister to effectively (or not) sweep the entire matter under the rug. The story centered about some submarine deal which had some pay offs but someone (mongolian lady) didn't receive their cut.

Scorpene?s Sting: Malaysia?s Bribery & Murder Scandal

I understand that some members are upset about going off track but this is a discussion thread and we are sharing opinions and news. No wild allegations. I am certainly not suggesting that the loss of MH370 is linked to any internal affairs. Just sharing some news here.
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 07:40
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I have 4000 hours in command on the 772 and a thought came to me overnight. What is this airlines policy regarding the MEC hatch?
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