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Old 15th Mar 2014, 07:02   #3681 (permalink)
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Wa wa,

Don't know that one sorry. Last ACARS to MAS was 0107am. This Satelite pinging is still to be clarified as to what type of info was coming back. If it was just benign keep a lives, then it maybe useless data.
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 07:03   #3682 (permalink)
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For those that dont understand bahasa malay the pm is delayed ....its normal malay time GMT whatever
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 07:05   #3683 (permalink)
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The extent of available JORN coverage and actual system performance is highly variable and principally dependent on the state of the ionosphere, environmental conditions and an object's size and construction.

AT 200am there is no path to that region on 24MHZ which the JORN uses check your ips charts
The RAAF guys live in the Alice and go to work at 800am

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Old 15th Mar 2014, 07:05   #3684 (permalink)
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s will not only discourage future events of this kind, but will serve PAX with the comforting knowledge that never again will they be at the mercy of terrorists, mentally challenged pilots, or disorganized authority.
Do you see how ridiculous your comments are?

The pax are ALWAYS at the mercy of the highly trained pilots. Being able to track the aircraft cannot stop that just like speed cameras do not stop speeding and CCTV does not stop crime, it is merely a tool for investigation and prosecution.

Really is this the standard of critical thinking you posess?
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 07:11   #3685 (permalink)
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to me the clearest indicator would be the time the transponder failed/disabled after TOC, if it was within minutes I'd strongly suspect a human aspect to this. Can anyone clarify the timing?
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 07:17   #3686 (permalink)
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It was a heist.

6tonnes of gold on board.
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 07:18   #3687 (permalink)
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There is limited fuel, a hijacker of any persuasion isn't going to ignore that fact.

Unfortunately not so. Some hijackers have no interest in making a successful landing, Ethiopian B767, for example or, more obviously 9/11.
Others have shown no realistic appraisal of an aircraft's range capability, ordering crews of short haul B737 over Europe to fly direct to the Middle East and been unable to comprehend that a landing for refuelling would be necessary.
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 07:21   #3688 (permalink)
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Two things

Just wondering two things:

1. Would shutting down one engine extend the range? If so, by how much?
2. Also thought it was a pretty strange that on day one the US sent only one ship to the area. Maybe they knew that there was nothing to find.
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 07:22   #3689 (permalink)
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What would be the length of runway, absolute minimum, if you had no intention to ever take off again, would you need for a 777?
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 07:22   #3690 (permalink)
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It was a heist.

6tonnes of gold on board.
Source please
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 07:26   #3691 (permalink)
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Malaysian PM - Comms disabled, transponder switch off.
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 07:26   #3692 (permalink)
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Malaysian PM - Plane was Hijacked

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Flight 370's movements are consistent with 'deliberate' action 'by someone on the plane' - Malaysian Prime Minister
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 07:28   #3693 (permalink)
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Malaysia Prime Minister says he was brief this morning

MH370 confirmed as the plane seen by Primary Radar

8:11am Malaysian Local Time last sat communication
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 07:30   #3694 (permalink)

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I don't see why there's so little concerning the pilot(s) having done this. After all they're trained and have access to the FD. Even if a would be hijacker was trained, then they'd still need access to the flight deck. Is there evidence we're not hearing about which the investigators are more convinced it was a passenger who did this and not the crew?
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 07:30   #3695 (permalink)
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So after 7 days of telling us there was no doubt the aircraft crashed at a little after 1am in the Gulf of Thailand, and no other option, Malaysia are now they admitting "credible evidence" days ago about the aircraft being tracked over the Straits of Malaca, now they admitting raw SATCOM data tracked the aircraft over the Straits of Malacca and to either Kazakstan or Southern Indian Ocean (i.e. off Australia)!

So seems they HAVE been lying the whole time, and other reports are in fact true!
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 07:30   #3696 (permalink)
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This is a hell of a press conference.

The last CONFIRMED contact with satellite was at 8.11am local. That is 7.5 hours after take off, which would be at the extreme of suggested range, based on fuel suggested fuel load.
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 07:33   #3697 (permalink)
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Malaysian PM - Based on new data MH370 could be in the northern corridor (Thailand - Kazakhstan) or southern corridor (Indonesia southwards)

"PM: Nothern corridor between Kazachstan & Turkmenistan to northern Thailand OR Malaysia to Southern Indian Ocean"
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 07:34   #3698 (permalink)
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last ping from mh370 to satellite at 8.11 am Malaysia time
that is 6 hrs 50 after last radar blip or 7 hrs 30 after takeoff
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 07:35   #3699 (permalink)
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If the theory is that the aircraft crashed into the sea, deliberately or otherwise, wouldn't the "impact" have been picked up by the various sonar/SOSUS/seismic recorders?

That is exactly what the Chinese, in there traditionally oblique way, are suggesting.
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 07:38   #3700 (permalink)
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Holy smokes.......if I was a relative of one of the pax/crew on the Aircraft I would hold out a lot of hope they are sitting somewhere waiting to be found......
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