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Malaysian Airlines MH370 contact lost

Old 15th Mar 2014, 05:16
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well in fact if the reports are true that the aircraft has been jacked then all those that wrote in to cast doubts on the crew and the crews motives for owning a flight sim should now hold heads in shame.
Um, the way I'm reading it, it appears that their definition of hijacking includes the possibility that it was hijacked by some portion of the crew. Unless/until I see evidence otherwise, to me it appears that those with the greatest opportunity were in the cockpit. Not saying either is guilty - but if I were charged with investigating the disappearance, it's certainly where I would start looking.
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 05:19
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Then make up your mind - if they are competent adults truly their government knows what it is saying.
Remind me again Porterhouse what the govt is saying officially?

My view is this plane crashed minutes after last contact. History has many instances in the past where very little debris was found.

But if you have an altered perception of reality then go ahead, publish it.
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 05:19
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"While the media focus has so far been on the so-called 27-year-old "party pilot" Fariq Abdul Hamid, who broke airlines rules by inviting two women passengers into the cockpit of plane in 2011, attention has now swung to the 53-year-old senior pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah.
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Television journalists in Kuala Lumpur reported that police had raided Mr Zaharie's home as evidence emerged pointing to piracy or pilot suicide, but officials denied it, saying his background was under the same scrutiny as all the 239 people on board."

Read more: Missing Malaysia Airlines plane: Investigators suspect MH370 deliberately flew off-course
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 05:21
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Yes, the fire theory has a problem, doesn't it?

That being that the aircraft seems to have flown on for another 5 hours.

A fire severe enough to take out all electronics, but not bring the aircraft down until it flamed out, hours later?

Seems highly unlikely!
Except it didnt. You are all pinning your hopes desperately on this inmarset report.
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 05:24
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I'll remind you.

They are saying they DON'T KNOW. They are not committing to ANY THEORY at present. Presumably because there are no FACTS to support any theory.

And, please, cite me any previous air crash where the aircraft crashed in shallow water, really shallow water in oceanic terms, and left not a single trace.

I cannot think of a single one.
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 05:25
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Re OTHR Jindalee


Err no it would not have tracked the flight.




Its a daylight test radar looking for boats.
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 05:27
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I understand I might be upsetting some ego's here but if this Inmarset info is 100% correct then why then are the Malaysians not using that as conclusive proof that the aircraft continued flying. They are not.
They are still searching in the last contact area.

How about a dose of logic. Anything else means you lot thinks the Malaysian investigators are totally incompetent.
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 05:32
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Perhaps because it involved triangualtion with "Other Satellites" which Government(s) don't necessarily want you to know about?
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 05:35
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Malaysian Airlines MH370 contact lost

"Its a daylight test radar looking for boats"

Rubbish!
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 05:39
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How about a dose of logic. Anything else means you lot thinks the Malaysian investigators are totally incompetent.
News flash - almost everyone on the planet feels the Malaysian Officials are
1) Incompetent
2) Unsure how to handle the situation
3) Hiding inconvenient truths that make them look bad
4) All of the above

A commentary carried by China’s state news agency Xinhua demanded: “Why is the silence on the flight being kept so long?”
Complaining that officials had been largely silent, it added: “Mounting evidence points to the theory that, including the possibilities of pilot error or terrorist activity, the loss of MH370 with 239 people on board is a man-made event rather than the result of a mechanical breakdown.
“If sabotage is not ruled out, withholding information from the public can be dangerous, even lethal.”


that is relayed by the Guardian, a site which has been trying to downplay the possibility of hijacking.terrorism since day one. It comes from this article which lists many of the real facts some here desperately don't want to hear


Flight MH370: Malaysians convinced missing airliner was hijacked | World news | theguardian.com


...and I just want to say how comical it really is that the "evidence" is that the plane made last verbal contact somewhere and someone in no position to see the crash says he saw the crash per a Government who is on record saying something, saying they didn't say it a few hours later, then saying it again the next day.


The really odd thing though? If one really believed the Malaysian Government and Eye Witnesses then they would believe the plane went West!


After all, the very first thing the Malaysian Government said was the plane went missing at 2:40 (not 1:30) there was evidence it turned West and that there were multiple eye witnesses spotting a plane flying near the Malaysia/Thailand border at roughly 1:45. Why are those facts provided by the Malaysian Government the ignored ones, but the ones that make zero sense and has every Government there is questioning their ability to give straight answer the only things believed?


Just because you desperately, obsessively want something to be true, doesn't mean it is. This goes for both a poster or two here, and the Malaysian Government.
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 05:41
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Hey Mr. Sheep, do you know if ACARS sends a 'shutting down' message home when shut down in the normal way, or does it just go silent from that point on ?
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 05:44
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 05:48
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To be fair, my interactions with the Malaysian police during my time in the RHKP were good. They were efficient and competent. Admittedly, that's going back a couple of decades now, but I see no reason why that would have changed much.
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 05:52
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Originally Posted by 1a sound asleep View Post

This one also showing live video from the conference now....note conference itself has NOT started.
http://www.livestation.com/reuters?source=redirect#
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 05:52
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Any interactions I have had with police, or any officials in MAL have, without exception, involved the passage of money. Nothing else seems to work.

Just getting her a police record report to immigrate to Canada took 18 months, a trip to the Malaysian High Commission, a trip to KL and an amount of cash.

Then again, she's Chinese Malaysian.
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 05:59
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Re OTHR Jindalee

Err no it would not have tracked the flight.

Its a daylight test radar looking for boats.
err what?

Jindalee Operational Radar Network - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Officially the system allows the Australian Defence Force to observe all air and sea activity north of Australia to distances of 3000 km

The JORN is so sensitive it is able to track planes as small as a Cessna 172 taking off and landing in East Timor 2600 km away
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 06:02
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Wa wa,

Don't know that one sorry. Last ACARS to MAS was 0107am. This Satelite pinging is still to be clarified as to what type of info was coming back. If it was just benign keep a lives, then it maybe useless data.
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 06:03
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For those that dont understand bahasa malay the pm is delayed ....its normal malay time GMT whatever
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 06:05
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Fact

The extent of available JORN coverage and actual system performance is highly variable and principally dependent on the state of the ionosphere, environmental conditions and an object's size and construction.


AT 200am there is no path to that region on 24MHZ which the JORN uses check your ips charts
The RAAF guys live in the Alice and go to work at 800am

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Old 15th Mar 2014, 06:05
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s will not only discourage future events of this kind, but will serve PAX with the comforting knowledge that never again will they be at the mercy of terrorists, mentally challenged pilots, or disorganized authority.
Do you see how ridiculous your comments are?

The pax are ALWAYS at the mercy of the highly trained pilots. Being able to track the aircraft cannot stop that just like speed cameras do not stop speeding and CCTV does not stop crime, it is merely a tool for investigation and prosecution.

Really is this the standard of critical thinking you posess?
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