Malaysian Airlines MH370 contact lost
short flights long nights
Hate to break the bad news, but the all,the fleet of the 777 a I fly have chemical generators for the pax. I guess it's an airline option.
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It would be very interesting to see what was simulated....if that data was recorded.
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Article in a a Canadian newspaper
Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 pilots lauded for strong ties to the community | National Post
On the face of it, none of this would seem to indicate deranged or potentially terrorist pilots.
On the face of it, none of this would seem to indicate deranged or potentially terrorist pilots.
Originally Posted by Vinnie Boombatz
@Physicus (#3579):
You can zoom in here:
ArcGIS Viewer for Flex
Some FIR boundaries look similar, some don't. The ICAO boundary between Thailand and Malaysia, for example, zigs and zags a lot.
You can zoom in here:
ArcGIS Viewer for Flex
Some FIR boundaries look similar, some don't. The ICAO boundary between Thailand and Malaysia, for example, zigs and zags a lot.
Skyvector also fails to correctly chart some of these FIR boundaries.
Originally Posted by onetrack
2. An oil rig worker, on a highly-elevated platform WITNESSED a fireball in the sky, in the correct direction, at height, right about the time of the aircrafts disappearance.
It's been advised, no space satellite of any superpower, picked up this fireball. Despite this seemingly impossible scenario, it can't be dismissed that all the sky surveillance missed this event. (#3595 Permlink)
It's been advised, no space satellite of any superpower, picked up this fireball. Despite this seemingly impossible scenario, it can't be dismissed that all the sky surveillance missed this event. (#3595 Permlink)
In the email he furnishes estimates for distance and bearing ranges. His two references to the initial altitude are "... burning at high altitude ..." and "... at a lower altitude than the normal flight paths."
Considering McKay's postulate with some additional assumptions:
- target at a distance of 50 km to 70 km from rig,
- target on a true bearing of 255 to 285 degrees,
- target at an altitude 10,000 to 25,000 ft AMSL,
- target instantaneously adopts a random course after observation and glides without turning,
- glide ratio is between 6:1 and 12:1,
- no wind,
- spherical earth
Although this location falls to the east of the area initially searched by Vietnam, debris drifting SW at 2 to 3 knots would by now have travelled about 400 to 500 NM to shore. Furthermore, the McKay scenario appears to be contradicted by the significant additional evidence alluded to by the US and Malaysia indicating a westward crossing of the peninsula followed by prolonged flight (cf. 'pings'). It is not convincing that a burning aircraft would endure prolonged flight of 4 to 5 hours. I think we can therefore set the McKay observation aside vis-à-vis MH370.
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That all depends on the nature of the fire and where it began
Then find an accident with fire which (roughly) fits data of this accident, so far you aren't even close.
Then find an accident with fire which (roughly) fits data of this accident, so far you aren't even close.
While they had time to issue a mayday, maybe the malaysian crew were taken by suprise and didnt get time.
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RR and BA did receive two...
...data transmissions, so the AC's equipment was subscribed and registered. The cell phone that's pinging without being subscribed should really have its settings mobile network boxes unchecked. That is what you would expect from a professional outfit like an airline.
I am puzzled by this pinging. If the electronic equipment and antenna is intact enough to send a signal to a satelite or cell tower, then why doesn't it send a datastream, even though there may be no data to collect due to other equipment failure? I strongly suspect that the military traced a different airplane, one that crossed paths with MH370 near the point where MH370 flew out of civilian radar range and lost the transponder. The pinging is generated by the plane that crossed MH370's path, but is not generated by MH370's equipment. Possibly the AC that the military radar tracked shot down MH370 or collided with it and kept on flying. That maybe why it chose the track along the boundaries of ATC's, so as to fall between the cracks, sort of speak.
I am puzzled by this pinging. If the electronic equipment and antenna is intact enough to send a signal to a satelite or cell tower, then why doesn't it send a datastream, even though there may be no data to collect due to other equipment failure? I strongly suspect that the military traced a different airplane, one that crossed paths with MH370 near the point where MH370 flew out of civilian radar range and lost the transponder. The pinging is generated by the plane that crossed MH370's path, but is not generated by MH370's equipment. Possibly the AC that the military radar tracked shot down MH370 or collided with it and kept on flying. That maybe why it chose the track along the boundaries of ATC's, so as to fall between the cracks, sort of speak.
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this CNN report of lithium ion batteries is true, then it puts the likely hood of a Malay peninsula fly over as a maybe. The scaling down of the Vietnamese search is not a good idea.
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But at the same time the T7 would shed its parts while going down 40K in one min. Not including ANY angle. Add anything above 30 deg angle and you are talking aerobatics. 777 will not cooperate in this scenario
The gruesome idea that the plane went to 40k and then depressurized to knock out the cabin is pretty horrible...but hypoxia would be faster than hypothermia.
Each day this story turns more and more into a bad movie plot.
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Valujet 592 fits PERFECTLY!
The ValuJet flight was over in minutes after the fire was detected.
maybe the malaysian crew were taken by suprise and didnt get time.
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it is quite sad that a popular senior pilot with a passion and love of his job is being character assassinated on here - not cricket guys sorry
he's one of you
he's one of you
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I just saw an "expert" on CNN claim that there was a seismic event (earthquake/aircraft crash) in the exact location at the exact time that contact was lost with MH370 and that the area was a "non seismic" area.
Perhaps someone should let him know the "event" happened an hour after contact was lost, and that the area is inside the "Ring of fire" seismic zone!
Perhaps someone should let him know the "event" happened an hour after contact was lost, and that the area is inside the "Ring of fire" seismic zone!
All these suggestions about sabotage - maybe just maybe the supposed changes in heading/altitude were just a pilot trying to take control of a major systems/control failure. In the absence of any realistic motive or sabotage plan its possible there is no foul play. We are yet to question the absolute accuracy or detail of these pings and who has decoded them
All these suggestions about sabotage - maybe just maybe the supposed changes in heading/altitude were just a pilot trying to take control of a major systems/control failure. In the absence of any realistic motive or sabotage plan its possible there is no foul play. We are yet to question the absolute accuracy or detail of these pings and who has decoded them
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maybe just maybe the supposed changes in heading/altitude were just a pilot trying to take control of a major systems/control failure.
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well it ...
It managed to pass through Indonesian and Thai airspace undetected, which is a bad sign for both countries air defense, if it dropped to a low altitude say -it may not be visible to radar.
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Oxygen
A very few 777 carriers paid for bottled oxygen option for the pax cabin. Nearly all have chemical generators (plus a handful of portable bottles) for cabin crew.
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Stop posting complete claptrap
The dumb, ignorant ill-informed nonsense that is being posted about this incident is getting me down. Is there a way to limit posts to industry only, Maybe CPL/ATPL holders....any ideas! Im sure this has happened before but this thread seems the worst ever and media will start adopting some of these far fetched brain dumps as plausible. 40,000'/min descent is a great example!
