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Old 20th Feb 2014, 08:08
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EY461 Toilet Fires

This is in todays National newspaper, so is in public domain.

But can not be metioned here.

So I will attempt to remove all references to the the route / operator/ type of aircraft. Passengers names have been sanitised to protect the environment.

The ------------- Airways flight from Melbourne to ---------- was diverted to Jakarta as the smoke billowed from the plane’s lavatories.
The plane took off again but more smoke was detected, and 12 passengers were held for questioning by security authorities when the flight landed in --------.
Jared Marshall, 34, a cameraman and photographer from Melbourne, said an alarm sounded and red lights flashed outside a lavatory in the middle of the plane, five rows ahead of his seat, about five hours after the flight took off, when most passengers were asleep.
An attendant opened the door and “smoke poured into the cabin”, he said. “They spent some time with fire extinguishers and water to put out the fire. We all assumed it was electrical.”
The pilot announced that it was illegal to smoke on the plane. Soon afterwards, another incident occurred in the rear lavatory, Mr Marshall said.
Some passengers in the back said they saw flames and smoke, though he did not see flames himself.
“You could see the concern on the attendants’ faces as they rushed to extinguish the fires,” Mr Marshall said.
“The mood among the passengers was more one of disbelief than fear.”
Heather Bullard, 60, a British insurance adviser who was seated near a lavatory, said: “I was asked if I had noticed anyone using the toilet but as I was sleeping I couldn’t help.”
When the plane landed in Indonesia there was a security search of the aircraft, passengers and carry-on luggage.
Once the flight resumed, attendants checked the lavatories after each passenger left, Mr Marshall said, but another alarm sounded and more smoke poured into the cabin.
“You could really sense the alarm and stress of the attendants and passengers at this stage. Everyone was a potential suspect,” he said.
The crew then announced that passengers could not use the lavatories, and stood guard at the doors. Catering services were stopped, though attendants occasionally delivered water, Mr Marshall said.
“The work of the flight attendants was very professional and they remained calm in a very dangerous situation and possibly saved the lives of everyone, and I am amazed that some people have been critical of them for stopping catering services,” he said.
Australian passenger Luke Oliver, 37, praised the cabin crew for their response. They were “very quick to respond each time and remained calm”, he said.
“There was a sense that everyone on board wanted whoever had done this to be caught.”
“By the end of the flight the crew were guarding the toilets. We were just waiting to land and end the ordeal.”
Ms Bullard said attendants tried to compensate for the lack of meal services.
“Security and safety of the passengers was their number one priority, and to put this in place some services had to be sacrificed, ie hot food,” she said.
“They regularly brought round water and muffins.”
Another passenger, Sarah Heather, 31, a British call centre worker, said: “When we got to -------- it was quite chaotic.
“We all got taken off to be searched but no one was telling us where to go or what was happening until we got to the Airline desk.”
Ms Heather questioned whether the flight should have been cancelled before leaving Jakarta.
“Quite scary that this person got back on the flight and did it a third time,” she said.
Ms Bullard, who was flying home after visiting two sons in Australia, described the mood of passengers as the incidents unfolded.
“Some passengers were texting loved ones as they were fearing the worst,” she said.
“So you can get an idea of the rising tension on the plane.”
The flight arrived in ------ four hours behind schedule, after a seven-hour journey from Indonesia, at 10.25am on Tuesday.
It is not yet known what caused the smoke, but authorities are still investigating.
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An inflight display of smoke and mirrors?
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Now widely reported including CNN and the Guardian. No point posting the link, as it includes the name of the airline which cannot be mentioned here.
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Oh dear. The name of the airline has been mentioned....
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enjoy this while it lasts
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Its been in the oz thread for days, what are y'all on about?
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The airline in question isn't to be mentioned, expect all threads about said airline to disappear. As with the one on here yesterday ...
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In actual fact the name of the airline is irrelevant. Could happen to any airline.
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This is almost like the play by Shakespeare, that was not supposed to be mentioned.

MacBeth.......
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Old 20th Feb 2014, 10:34
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Originally Posted by Hotel Tango
In actual fact the name of the airline is irrelevant. Could happen to any airline.
- Oi! spot the difference? You can post about any other airline.
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Old 20th Feb 2014, 11:25
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If you hide something from people they become more curious so I don't think the control or supression of information works.
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If you hide something from people they become more curious so I don't think the control or supression of information works.
Also gives them a bad image. If they are afraid of being discussed on a public forum, then they must have a lot to hide. I have them on my mental list of carriers to think twice about using now that they have banned discussion of their name on here.
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Streisand Effect

Trim Stab - FYI - that would be the "Streisand effect":

"The Streisand effect is the phenomenon whereby an attempt to hide, remove, or censor a piece of information has the unintended consequence of publicizing the information more widely, usually facilitated by the Internet."


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What was the ETD ?
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Old 20th Feb 2014, 13:51
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lavatory fireS a big deal?

fromDaveReidUK:
Though, frankly, I wouldn't expect a "Smoke in Toilet" thread to last long in Rumours & News"

I think it is more the multiple fires, clearly set, over a period of time.
Would this not alarm you?
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Old 20th Feb 2014, 14:28
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Obviously DR is unmoved by multiple fires and a diversion on a long ETOPS flight - cool, man!
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Probably as along as required at any given time likely an augmented or double crew though.

Appears to me that the initial thread in fact vanished.
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Most interesting that the other thread disappeared.

It's news and was on all the news sources in Australia.

What exactly are the mods afraid of here? It's a forum!
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would the name of the airline have any relationship to the code in front of the flight number ?
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