Russian B737 Crash at Kazan.
And that doesn't mean in a simulator; but hands on in command instrument flying skills in IMC.
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Gentlemen, don't be so categorical. Too many dark stains in this accident. I wouldn't trust MAK at all after Irkutsk A310 investigation (clownery with sleeve of jacket)
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Does someone please have a link to the report if it is online?
AvHerald has a wealth of information but I would like the official report as well.
Edit: The link on avherald does not work for me...
AvHerald has a wealth of information but I would like the official report as well.
Edit: The link on avherald does not work for me...
The link on AVHerald works OK for me so I'd be happy to reupload it for you but just want to make sure you realise it's in russian.
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Can you read russian?
I concluded that the report on avherald is some sort of unofficial translation of (at least parts of) the Russian report and just wish to have a copy of the original also.
Thankyou very much in advance!
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FDR Information
I have been trying to review this accident with regard to the use of pitch trim. Did MAK ever publish the FDR readout? If so, could someone point me to it please?
This accident, Flydubai 981, and Lionair JT 610, seem to share a common set of factors.
Tks,
Machinbird
This accident, Flydubai 981, and Lionair JT 610, seem to share a common set of factors.
Tks,
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vmandr, Thank you very much for the assistance. 
It appears that MAK went to great lengths to validate the FDR data by running simulations of the flight using the recorded parameters.
As difficult as it is to imagine, the pilot actually seems to have pushed the yoke sufficiently to create significant negative g, thus indicating a complete scan breakdown and flight control solely by kinesthetic senses.
As such, this accident does not seem to match up with the Flydubai, and Lionair loss of control.
It appears that MAK went to great lengths to validate the FDR data by running simulations of the flight using the recorded parameters.
As difficult as it is to imagine, the pilot actually seems to have pushed the yoke sufficiently to create significant negative g, thus indicating a complete scan breakdown and flight control solely by kinesthetic senses.
As such, this accident does not seem to match up with the Flydubai, and Lionair loss of control.
The Jangling of spurs must have been deafening at Tartarstan. What a shambolic, lethal and corner cutting philosophy; no wonder accident rates in that part of the world are what they are. A go around should be second nature and always in your mind on an approach -stating the obvious sorry - but it seems the pilots tested in the sim found it stressful to the point of distress! I just hope I never find myself sitting behind pilots with that level of training, experience and ability.
There should be criminal charges for the airline management; those deaths were as a result of total negligence.
There should be criminal charges for the airline management; those deaths were as a result of total negligence.
