CIAS BN2 force landing
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Channel islands Air Search BN2 G-CIAS is reported down on north coast of Jersey. 5 SOB, accounted for, condition unknown
Double engine failure, right then left.
Extremely lucky they made it to land as the sea state is reported as very rough, with confused swells at 16ft.
Double engine failure, right then left.
Extremely lucky they made it to land as the sea state is reported as very rough, with confused swells at 16ft.
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From my Facebook news feed tonight.
"There are 2 missing fisherman off Jersey, CI air search joined the rescue but lost power to both engines & crash landed in a field in St Mary's. All 5 crew are safely with the Jersey Police & are un hurt. 2 fisherman are still missing & the wind is gusting force 10"
"There are 2 missing fisherman off Jersey, CI air search joined the rescue but lost power to both engines & crash landed in a field in St Mary's. All 5 crew are safely with the Jersey Police & are un hurt. 2 fisherman are still missing & the wind is gusting force 10"
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News coming in......
The Channel Islands Air search BN2 has force landed in a field in St.Mary's Jersey due to engine failure, all believed OK.
If this is correct it's amazing as it was dark and the weather is driving rain with a southerly gale blowing and the fields in Jersey aren't very large!!!
The Channel Islands Air search BN2 has force landed in a field in St.Mary's Jersey due to engine failure, all believed OK.
If this is correct it's amazing as it was dark and the weather is driving rain with a southerly gale blowing and the fields in Jersey aren't very large!!!
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I heard that it came down near Devil's Hole. I've just been out, driving from town to St. John and it's a wild night out there; kudos to the crew for a brilliant result.
Photo: G-CIAS (CN: 2162) Channel Islands Air Search Britten-Norman BN-2B-21 Islander by John Fitzpatrick - JetPhotos.Net
Photo: G-CIAS (CN: 2162) Channel Islands Air Search Britten-Norman BN-2B-21 Islander by John Fitzpatrick - JetPhotos.Net
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Vouch for the other comments Not much room to put a rotary down let alone fixed away from the beach Conditions sound atrocious over there, glad I am not over there at the moment. Had my fair share of bad weather on the CIs
Not much hope for the poor fishing crew lost at sea. At least there is some positives though for the aircrew from reports
Not much hope for the poor fishing crew lost at sea. At least there is some positives though for the aircrew from reports
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John Gripton, managing editor of BBC Radio Jersey, said: "There are reports that engines on the aircraft failed and that the plane used the twinkling lights of the pub in the darkness on the north coast as a target to try to land the craft on dry land.
"Five people were on board and miraculously they appear to be ok and uninjured, and currently with the emergency services at the pub."
short flights long nights
And they were looking for 2 guys in a dingy. By the sounds of the weather there, a dingy is not a place you want to be. Well done to the crew of the Islander
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Sorry to "spoil" the party, but WTF (or should that be HWF ?) did we (having UK nationality I can't say they) ever certify this thing as a multi engined aircraft if the only purpose of the 2nd donk is to prolong the glide ? & the trislander ? ? jeezuz, the CAA was REALLY cheap to pay off in the past, or was/is EVERYONE involved in UK aviation in the Masons ?
Edited to say, RTFQ2 . . . if I had read the report properly I would have seen that SE performance was the least of their problems Duh !
Edited to say, RTFQ2 . . . if I had read the report properly I would have seen that SE performance was the least of their problems Duh !
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Jersey Coastguard said the two fishermen were found just before 23:30 and a rescue operation was under way. It is understood the men are conscious but suffering from hypothermia.
They are being taken by helicopter to Jersey's General Hospital.
From:- BBC News - Search-and-rescue plane crash lands on Jersey
Jersey Coastguard said the two fishermen were found just before 23:30 and a rescue operation was under way. It is understood the men are conscious but suffering from hypothermia.
They are being taken by helicopter to Jersey's General Hospital.
From:- BBC News - Search-and-rescue plane crash lands on Jersey
JER (EGJJ) airfield is in the south-west corner of the island, only about 3 - 4 nm from the north coast at St Mary.
It seems the incident started around 1900Z, when the wind at the airfield was southerly at about 30 kt, in moderate, occasionally heavy rain. Presumably there would have been turbulence and downdrafts over the cliffs on the north coast, plus layers of low stratus cloud.
EGJJ 032350Z 25030G41KT 9999 BKN014 14/12 Q0990 NOSIG
EGJJ 032320Z 25029KT 9999 BKN014 14/12 Q0990 NOSIG
EGJJ 032250Z 25033KT 9999 FEW010 BKN014 14/12 Q0991 NOSIG
EGJJ 032220Z 24026KT 7000 FEW010 BKN013 14/13 Q0991 NOSIG
EGJJ 032150Z 23029KT 9999 FEW010 BKN014 14/12 Q0992 NOSIG
EGJJ 032120Z 23026KT 9999 FEW008 BKN014 14/12 Q0992 NOSIG
EGJJ 032050Z 22029KT 9999 FEW008 SCT012 BKN018 13/12 Q0992 NOSIG
EGJJ 032020Z 20029KT 7000 -RA FEW005 BKN008 12/11 Q0993 TEMPO BKN012
EGJJ 031950Z 20028G39KT 5000 -RA SCT006 BKN009 11/10 Q0994 RERA TEMPO 9999 BKN012
EGJJ 031920Z 17029KT 3000 RA SCT006 BKN010 11/10 Q0995 TEMPO +RA BKN005
EGJJ 031850Z 17028KT 5000 RA SCT008 BKN010 10/09 Q0996 TEMPO 3000 +RA BKN005
EGJJ 031820Z 17024KT 7000 RA FEW008 BKN012 10/09 Q0998 TEMPO 4000 BKN006
EGJJ 031750Z 19019KT 8000 RA FEW010 BKN020 11/09 Q1000 BECMG 5000 BKN010
EGJJ 031720Z 18018KT 9999 -RA FEW012 SCT020 BKN040 11/09 Q1002 BECMG 5000 RA BKN010
EGJJ 031650Z 21017KT 9999 -RA FEW018 BKN045 11/08 Q1002 BECMG 5000 RA BKN012
EGJJ 031620Z 21022KT 9999 -RA SCT020 BKN035 11/08 Q1004 RERA BECMG 5000 RA BKN012
EGJJ 031550Z 21016G26KT 9999 -RA SCT025 BKN040 11/07 Q1004 BECMG 5000 RA BKN012
Link for current BBC News item, which also reports the fishermen have been rescued alive:
BBC News - Search-and-rescue plane crash lands on Jersey
It seems the incident started around 1900Z, when the wind at the airfield was southerly at about 30 kt, in moderate, occasionally heavy rain. Presumably there would have been turbulence and downdrafts over the cliffs on the north coast, plus layers of low stratus cloud.
EGJJ 032350Z 25030G41KT 9999 BKN014 14/12 Q0990 NOSIG
EGJJ 032320Z 25029KT 9999 BKN014 14/12 Q0990 NOSIG
EGJJ 032250Z 25033KT 9999 FEW010 BKN014 14/12 Q0991 NOSIG
EGJJ 032220Z 24026KT 7000 FEW010 BKN013 14/13 Q0991 NOSIG
EGJJ 032150Z 23029KT 9999 FEW010 BKN014 14/12 Q0992 NOSIG
EGJJ 032120Z 23026KT 9999 FEW008 BKN014 14/12 Q0992 NOSIG
EGJJ 032050Z 22029KT 9999 FEW008 SCT012 BKN018 13/12 Q0992 NOSIG
EGJJ 032020Z 20029KT 7000 -RA FEW005 BKN008 12/11 Q0993 TEMPO BKN012
EGJJ 031950Z 20028G39KT 5000 -RA SCT006 BKN009 11/10 Q0994 RERA TEMPO 9999 BKN012
EGJJ 031920Z 17029KT 3000 RA SCT006 BKN010 11/10 Q0995 TEMPO +RA BKN005
EGJJ 031850Z 17028KT 5000 RA SCT008 BKN010 10/09 Q0996 TEMPO 3000 +RA BKN005
EGJJ 031820Z 17024KT 7000 RA FEW008 BKN012 10/09 Q0998 TEMPO 4000 BKN006
EGJJ 031750Z 19019KT 8000 RA FEW010 BKN020 11/09 Q1000 BECMG 5000 BKN010
EGJJ 031720Z 18018KT 9999 -RA FEW012 SCT020 BKN040 11/09 Q1002 BECMG 5000 RA BKN010
EGJJ 031650Z 21017KT 9999 -RA FEW018 BKN045 11/08 Q1002 BECMG 5000 RA BKN012
EGJJ 031620Z 21022KT 9999 -RA SCT020 BKN035 11/08 Q1004 RERA BECMG 5000 RA BKN012
EGJJ 031550Z 21016G26KT 9999 -RA SCT025 BKN040 11/07 Q1004 BECMG 5000 RA BKN012
Link for current BBC News item, which also reports the fishermen have been rescued alive:
BBC News - Search-and-rescue plane crash lands on Jersey
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Having flown the BN2A (with 300 hp engines) I confirm that with 7 people on board it maintained altitude with temp above ISA with one engine operating at simulated feather.
The initial post said the aircraft involved in this accident had a double engine failure. If that is the case your rant about the single engine performance is not really relevant.
if one engine failed with only 5 people on board I would have expected it to maintain altitude but only if the inoperative propellor was correctly feathered.
Having flown the BN2A (with 300 hp engines) I confirm that with 7 people on board it maintained altitude with temp above ISA with one engine operating at simulated feather.
The initial post said the aircraft involved in this accident had a double engine failure. If that is the case your rant about the single engine performance is not really relevant.
if one engine failed with only 5 people on board I would have expected it to maintain altitude but only if the inoperative propellor was correctly feathered.
BN2 will fly on one engine, done it twice myself in much hotter conditions, but only glide (quite well) with none! It can land on a postage stamp in 30 kt winds and I suspect local knowledge was a great help.
Hope the fishermen recover fast and respect to all those who risk their lives to help others
Hope the fishermen recover fast and respect to all those who risk their lives to help others
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Hmmmm... I have a few hrs in the BN2 -relatively often in flogging rain too, but have yet to experience anything like that suggested by yg11. Without wanting to preempt any investigations of fact, it strikes me that there is only one "usual" cause for a double engine-failure, related more to a dire lack of the necessary, or a failure to supply.
Time will tell.
Time will tell.
From the BBC
Nice to see the police participate in the debrief !!!
John Dowling, manager of the Priory Inn, said the five people on board had gone into his pub with police after the incident.
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