Dealing with drunk passengers
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"unwise to argue with idiots and drunks, unfortunately I have now had to add security screeners to that list."
They're already included in one of the two categories you listed....!
They're already included in one of the two categories you listed....!
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Actually, things aren't nearly so black and white.
Beer can be 5%-8% ethanol or so.
Weak beer can be 3.5%
Sweet cider from Normandy can be 2.5%
That fruit salad that you prepared at 5PM before the guests arrived, and left on the kitchen counter, can be 2% by the time you serve dessert at 8:30.
A nice ripe peach, 1% or 2%.
Are you seriously going to claim that eating a peach renders one unfit to be a passenger on an airliner?
If no, then it isn't "black and white" at all, but, like all things in life, a matter of considerable nuance.
Weak beer can be 3.5%
Sweet cider from Normandy can be 2.5%
That fruit salad that you prepared at 5PM before the guests arrived, and left on the kitchen counter, can be 2% by the time you serve dessert at 8:30.
A nice ripe peach, 1% or 2%.
Are you seriously going to claim that eating a peach renders one unfit to be a passenger on an airliner?
If no, then it isn't "black and white" at all, but, like all things in life, a matter of considerable nuance.
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Here's how one airline in the US handled a drunk passenger after their diversion to Nadi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-1VPCQbxTc
I'd imagine many companies also keep tiered blacklists for passengers that cause disruptions such that it requires a flight diversion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-1VPCQbxTc
I'd imagine many companies also keep tiered blacklists for passengers that cause disruptions such that it requires a flight diversion.
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Such a black-list of a major British carrier, if it does indeed have such, was longer by some 30 names after just one flight back from the Caribbean a few months back.
Two families, comprising 30 individuals, were threatening to kill other pax and crew members. Sounded as though a wedding party returning home were in no mood to let the 'party' end before touching down back in Blighty, much to the annoyance of the other pax who just wanted some shut-eye.
All credit to the crew for defusing a nightmare situation to the extent that a diversion to the Azores was not required. Hope that plod had the welcome wagons waiting airside.
Two families, comprising 30 individuals, were threatening to kill other pax and crew members. Sounded as though a wedding party returning home were in no mood to let the 'party' end before touching down back in Blighty, much to the annoyance of the other pax who just wanted some shut-eye.
All credit to the crew for defusing a nightmare situation to the extent that a diversion to the Azores was not required. Hope that plod had the welcome wagons waiting airside.
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Sports Tours
Rowdy expat touring teams drunken and crass behaviour came to a crunching halt in the Arabian Gulf a couple of decades ago, when a certain country's Rugby Team were deplaned on the tarmac on arrival, carted off to nick, and all fined in the morning for being drunk and disorderly.
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Look up the iata guide lines on how to handle unruly pax :
http://www.iata.org/whatwedo/safety/...st-Edition.pdf
I understand that it is ALL UNDER THE PIC's ultimate authority on how to address the situation. Powers and Immunities bestowed upon them by the Tokyo Convention 1963 to assess and deal effectively with unruly passenger behavior on board.
Also, look up if the countries you are flying for participate in the Convention.
http://www.iata.org/whatwedo/safety/...st-Edition.pdf
I understand that it is ALL UNDER THE PIC's ultimate authority on how to address the situation. Powers and Immunities bestowed upon them by the Tokyo Convention 1963 to assess and deal effectively with unruly passenger behavior on board.
Also, look up if the countries you are flying for participate in the Convention.
from personal experience, a fire extinguisher upside the head. followed by a bit of duct tape, and a delivery to the local gendarmes. Mind you this was 15+ years ago, and the guy plead to a "disturbance charge" with no time and small fine
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If your name is interchangeable with any number of "cousins" and you don't turn up at court you won't have a criminal record...
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The classic trick from days of yore with the F27 services out of Melbourne after the then VFL Grand Final is probably not legal now due to OHS etc.
The punters knew enough to shut up and board like lambs but often on climbout the noise level would start to build and get to the point of being even frightening for those travelling with kids, little old ladies etc.
Their trick was to increase the cabin altitude and temperature. Snoring their heads off in no time. Generally it worked a treat but I do recall one TAA F27 calling Company in DPO to call the King Island Police, diverting there and booting 25 passengers off to face the music from the waiting Constabulary who were probably not in the best mood being dragged out on a Saturday night. It was also school holiday period and it took 3 days for the last one to get home.
Probably not politically correct now
Oops - sorry - missed earlier posts re this. Skipped a page.
The punters knew enough to shut up and board like lambs but often on climbout the noise level would start to build and get to the point of being even frightening for those travelling with kids, little old ladies etc.
Their trick was to increase the cabin altitude and temperature. Snoring their heads off in no time. Generally it worked a treat but I do recall one TAA F27 calling Company in DPO to call the King Island Police, diverting there and booting 25 passengers off to face the music from the waiting Constabulary who were probably not in the best mood being dragged out on a Saturday night. It was also school holiday period and it took 3 days for the last one to get home.
Probably not politically correct now
Oops - sorry - missed earlier posts re this. Skipped a page.
