Air France A320 at Marseille on Mar 11th 2013
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Air France A320 at Marseille on Mar 11th 2013
Sorry if this has already been posted. Don't want to start a fight but there are a few similar incidents like this popping up.
Incident: Air France A320 at Marseille on Mar 11th 2013, approach to stall during visual approach
Incident: Air France A320 at Marseille on Mar 11th 2013, approach to stall during visual approach
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As far as I am concerned it shows that AF have a good reporting culture. Pilots who are not afraid to say something strange has happened. Good on them. David - were you trying to make a different point?
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No, I was not. I did mention that I don't want to start a fight as I know that things on here can be taken too far and was just highlighting another incident.
Relax.. in modern, SMS-driven airline world, this is called 'just culture'. As long as it's reported to safety department, it's ok and safe. There there guys, you screwed up but you reported it so you can go back and play again.
Last edited by Dufo; 27th Mar 2013 at 10:50.
At least AF flight deck crews appear to be learning their way around stall unlike their colleagues around the TASIL point.
I would fly with them any day if the price is right and no star alliance flight is comparable.
I would fly with them any day if the price is right and no star alliance flight is comparable.
As it should be!
As for the incident, Alpha Prot activated - the aircraft didn't stall (it won't!)and no one was hurt.
The protections worked - just as they should!
As for the incident, Alpha Prot activated - the aircraft didn't stall (it won't!)and no one was hurt.
The protections worked - just as they should!
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As far as I am concerned it shows that AF have a good reporting culture. Pilots who are not afraid to say something strange has happened. Good on them. David - were you trying to make a different point?
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Could be, but in my opinion incidents are not handled better because they end up in the news. It's all about how its dealt with internally and the questions you raise within your organisation. What can we learn from this? What can we do to prevent the same mistakes from being made again? Is this something that warrants changes in our SOPs? Changes in how we train our people? etc etc.
Not saying these things should not be shared within the industry so that we can all learn from them, but that has nothing to do with media.
Not saying these things should not be shared within the industry so that we can all learn from them, but that has nothing to do with media.
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Could be, but in my opinion incidents are not handled better because they end up in the news
http://www.bea.aero/fr/enquetes/2013...semaine.12.pdf
They open an investigation for serious incident
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Incident grave
Last edited by Capn Bloggs; 28th Mar 2013 at 02:05. Reason: dang spellcheckers...
As for the incident, Alpha Prot activated - the aircraft didn't stall (it won't!)and no one was hurt
For alpha prot to work, the aircraft has to be seriously mismanaged and non monitored, neither of which should EVER happen.
