Loose Row of Seats on American Airlines
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Loose Row of Seats on American Airlines
Surely if the PAX stayed sat in them, they wouldn't move anywhere?
How ridiculous!
How ridiculous!
The points of contact for a row of seats are extremely small, and the legs are not evenly spaced along the row. The only time the seats are stable is when they are properly secured in the seat tracks..
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Yes, had this pre-departure 'fresh' out of the maintenance hangar....oops!!
Yep, had this on B-747-136 once. Straight out of the hangar...ready to fly....lol.
In 'E' zone got a call to come and look pre-engine start...sure enough...a whole 3-seat row unbolted to the floor and when pax sat down realised they had more 'recline' than they were used to!
Had to be seen to be believed.
Whole row removed and pax/luggage removed....3 unhappy teddies not going to Miami! ;-) as flight was full.
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Second Case
According to CNN
(CNN) -- Seats on two American Airlines jetliners came loose on flights in rare occurrences that prompted the company to inspect eight Boeing planes, the carrier said.
An American spokeswoman confirmed both incidents took place on Saturday and Monday. There were no reports of injuries to passengers on either 757 aircraft.
The first incident occurred on a flight from Boston to Miami that was carrying 175 passengers. It diverted to New York's John F. Kennedy Airport when three seats in Row 12 came loose shortly after takeoff.
A second, similar incident occurred on Monday on a flight from New York to Miami with 154 passengers. It returned to JFK without further incident.
(CNN) -- Seats on two American Airlines jetliners came loose on flights in rare occurrences that prompted the company to inspect eight Boeing planes, the carrier said.
An American spokeswoman confirmed both incidents took place on Saturday and Monday. There were no reports of injuries to passengers on either 757 aircraft.
The first incident occurred on a flight from Boston to Miami that was carrying 175 passengers. It diverted to New York's John F. Kennedy Airport when three seats in Row 12 came loose shortly after takeoff.
A second, similar incident occurred on Monday on a flight from New York to Miami with 154 passengers. It returned to JFK without further incident.
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It wasn't American's fault because they were outsourcing maintenance so quality of workmanship will always be compromised. They also work on our engines by the way.
It is cheaper in the long run so like some airlines using automation to reduce pilot training costs saves money too unless something happens that required more training than they got. Then it costs a lot more.
It is cheaper in the long run so like some airlines using automation to reduce pilot training costs saves money too unless something happens that required more training than they got. Then it costs a lot more.
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Inspector Cleusot of the Surete would begin his investigations in Miami which of course in the common denominator in both of these outrages.
Evac slides mysteriously popped at Eastern and wires were cut in the weeks before the IAM strike. Seems like the mechanics were given the day off in the hours before the strike deadline lest they trash the place on the way out.
Of course, maintenance outsourcing in MIA has also had horrific consequences in the Valujet 592 crash.
It will be interesting to see where the investigation leads in these 'unusual' seat incidents.
I heard the conversation between the aircraft and ATC concerning this incident on the news today. (apparently recorded by that well known ATC internet site) The pilot sounded like he was trying not to seem overly amused by the situation, but without much success! In his position I would have difficulty suppressing my laughter.
Outright sabotage? I doubt it even if such things did happen in the past. But post 9/11? Gitmo anyone? I used to do "outsourced mx" for an airline in one of my previous jobs. Our work was superior to the airline's own work by a wide margin. No. it's just as likely to be just another mx screwup in the fast paced low cost world of the modern airline biz where Kost is King! (spelling deliberate!)
Outright sabotage? I doubt it even if such things did happen in the past. But post 9/11? Gitmo anyone? I used to do "outsourced mx" for an airline in one of my previous jobs. Our work was superior to the airline's own work by a wide margin. No. it's just as likely to be just another mx screwup in the fast paced low cost world of the modern airline biz where Kost is King! (spelling deliberate!)
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Boston To Miami American Airlines Flight Diverted Seats Loosen « CBS Boston
The airline announced Monday that eight aircraft will be taken out of service as a result.
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Quotes from AA in the news this am.:
American Airlines spokeswoman Mary Frances Fagan said that an initial internal investigation 'indicated that there could be a possible issue with a certain model of seats and how they fit into the tracking used to secure the seats'.
The seats were installed by American Airlines maintenance and maintenance contractors and the issue does not seem to be tied to any one maintenance facility or group, the company said.
The seats were installed by American Airlines maintenance and maintenance contractors and the issue does not seem to be tied to any one maintenance facility or group, the company said.