Dead Body in LG Bay - BA 747
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I'm fairly certain hypoxia would kill someone prior to a temperature related death!!
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I'm fairly certain hypoxia would kill someone prior to a temperature related death!!
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If that is the case, why was every person onboard Helios 522 still alive when the aircraft hit the ground?
Bodies dropping at the gear down point are unfortunately a routine event in MIA for flights arriving from Latin America.
Sometimes, the stowaway survives in a few rare cases, probably on the 1-2 hour flights. At my airline at a few Latin American destinations, a security vehicle follows us until airborne.
Legend has it years ago, a B727 FE noticed the aft cargo light come on and then go out just as they were ready to enter the active runway for takeoff one night from a down south destination. Word was an 'inside job' took place as a few million dollars of a cash shipment was in that aft cargo and was 'liberated', and spirited off the grounds of a dark airport area.
Sometimes, the stowaway survives in a few rare cases, probably on the 1-2 hour flights. At my airline at a few Latin American destinations, a security vehicle follows us until airborne.
Legend has it years ago, a B727 FE noticed the aft cargo light come on and then go out just as they were ready to enter the active runway for takeoff one night from a down south destination. Word was an 'inside job' took place as a few million dollars of a cash shipment was in that aft cargo and was 'liberated', and spirited off the grounds of a dark airport area.
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Every departure out of Havana is carefully monitored at the holding point....
Spotlights monitor wheel bays at night.....
Believe BA managed to LMC one there too!...
Guess 100% success rate not guaranteed!
Spotlights monitor wheel bays at night.....
Believe BA managed to LMC one there too!...
Guess 100% success rate not guaranteed!
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A vehicle with powerful spotlights, situated in the holding area, monitors the aircraft until take-off...
First time I noticed it, thought that Cuban plane spotters were rather keen!
First time I noticed it, thought that Cuban plane spotters were rather keen!
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If that is the case, why was every person onboard Helios 522 still alive when the aircraft hit the ground?
Though I agree the temperature was probably to blame. That is not to say prolonged Hypoxia can't kill someone though.
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People have been known to survive.
I remember another BA related story where a man was found wandering around the apron at Heathrow's Terminal 4. Turned out that he'd stowed himself in the gear bay on a BA flight from India (IIRC) . . . the Captain once he'd learned of the story, was so appalled at the boy's story that he ended up adopting him . . .
I remember another BA related story where a man was found wandering around the apron at Heathrow's Terminal 4. Turned out that he'd stowed himself in the gear bay on a BA flight from India (IIRC) . . . the Captain once he'd learned of the story, was so appalled at the boy's story that he ended up adopting him . . .
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In the mid 90s BA brought 2 back from Cuba for Christmas. One dropped out on the approach to 08R at LGW on the 24th Dec. The other was not found on the turnaround, and fell on to the runway from 150 feet after takeoff the following day, when the nose doors opened for gear retraction. This has led to the "spotters" at the threshold at Cuban airfields.
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We've had them dropping out over London previously. The man who fell to earth | UK news | The Guardian As someone has already stated, there was a case around the same time, where someone survived a long haul flight in the undercarriage. They survived it because they lightly dressed and quite skinny (from memory), they very quickly went into a deep sleep/light coma type of stasis, which is what saved him. Apparently, if he'd been better fed and/or wearing more clothing he would have died.
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I'm no medic but i am sure he would have frozen to death due to the extreme cold. I am also sure he would have been unconcious long before this and probably brain damaged. I expect the people on board the Helios would have also been at least in a coma or brain damaged by the time they crashed. Maybe a medical expert could comment.
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And Mr JW411 - you really do need to grow up.
Quite often on incidents such as these, the flight crew are the last to know there is something amiss because all the 'action' is on a different frequency and the one feature of 'communication' is that it doesn't happen half as often as it should.
As for laughing it off a la JW411 - it's black humour, it's how a lot of us (yes US) deal with tragedy - just ask Traffic cops, ambulance drivers etc who have to go and pick up the mess the rest of leave around. Some of the worst is heard in crew rooms after an aircraft stoofs in (but in the military we're all know for being puerile - or were).
There are too many people struggling to breath because their heads are firmly up their fundament . . . JW411, GO FOR IT.
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As mentioned in earlier threads, when landing to the north in NRT, you are supposed to have your gear down before the shoreline 'in order to prevent ice blocks falling from aircraft onto the ground'.
I believe the 'ice blocks' are the stowaways who used to fall onto beachfront property in Sanbu on gear extension.
This type of robbery has occured several times over the years I believe. Like bank embezzlement often the crime is not publicized.
I believe the 'ice blocks' are the stowaways who used to fall onto beachfront property in Sanbu on gear extension.
Legend has it years ago, a B727 FE noticed the aft cargo light come on and then go out just as they were ready to enter the active runway for takeoff one night from a down south destination. Word was an 'inside job' took place as a few million dollars of a cash shipment was in that aft cargo and was 'liberated', and spirited off the grounds of a dark airport area.
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True, but he may well be up for a Darwin Award (posthumously).
Sorry : That comment was directed at the 'flyer'.
Sorry : That comment was directed at the 'flyer'.
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