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A German website attests Dana air to have a high security and quality standard, which is not too bad for an operator in Nigerian circumstances.
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Apparently, the aircraft were formally used by Alaska Airlines.
This incident and the one in Accra will certainly project more doubts about the safety standard of Nigerian operators. Very unfortunate indeed.
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Apparently, the aircraft were formally used by Alaska Airlines.
This incident and the one in Accra will certainly project more doubts about the safety standard of Nigerian operators. Very unfortunate indeed.
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This plane suffered a bird strike on 19 April 2012. Source: Incident: Dana Air MD83 at Lagos on Apr 19th 2010, bird strike
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An investigation is under way, but in difficult conditions as darkness falls, says the BBC's East Africa correspondent Will Ross.
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Eye witnesses accounts of Dana Air crash in Lagos with over 153 persons feared died
Lagos (WorldStage Newsonline)-- The entire 153 passengers in an aircraft operated by Dana Airlines which crashed into a densely populated area in Lagos, and the residents of the two buildings in Toyin Area of Iju Ishaga area where it crashed, were feared perished on Sunday.
Eye witness accounts said the aircraft was seeing struggling to gain balance as it was coming down before it finally crashed into the buildings.
]Sources who witnessed the crashed said the aircraft crashed first into a coconut palm and mango trees before it finally fell onto a factory and a two story buildings. An eye witness, Kabiru Salami, a resident of No 107 Odetunde Street, who said he was on the top floor of his house when the aircraft crashed on the factory and the two story building claimed the aircraft did not nosedive, rather it had its nose up and the tail closer to the ground before it finally hit the two building with its belly while the tail hit the factory building.
"I was outside on the balcony when suddenly I saw the aircraft coming down forcefully. The aircraft was moving in a zigzag manner. I was shocked when one of its wings push down the coconut and mango tree on its path. It did not come down with its nose. The nose was raised up while the tail side went down till it hit the two story buildings with its belly side and finally fell on both the building and the factory.” he said. Another eyewitness, a Pastor Fredrick Akingbe, the owner of building number 5 which was the third building to the factory located at number 9, Popoola Street said that he had just left his church located next to the factory where the aircraft crashed when he heard a big bang and by the time he came out, thick smoke was bellowing into the atmosphere and he had to run out of the building .Confirming Kiburu statement, Akingbe said the aircraft did not explode immediately it crashed on the building.
“I had just returned from the church and undressing when I heard a big bang. I quickly rushed out only to find out that an aircraft had fell into those buildings, suddenly there was a big smoke which enveloped the entire area including my house. I ran out but before we knew what to do there were explosion about four times and the aircraft burst into a very ball of fire which caught the entire buildings and part of my church where I preached this afternoon. But before we also knew what was happening, the entire place had been crowded by on lookers who trooped to this place in their thousands. So, nobody could move near the buildings to rescue anything.
At the scene of the crash, rescue workers were seen putting out the fire while the bodies of some of the residents of the two story buildings were evacuated from the wreckage of the building .
Eye witness accounts said the aircraft was seeing struggling to gain balance as it was coming down before it finally crashed into the buildings.
]Sources who witnessed the crashed said the aircraft crashed first into a coconut palm and mango trees before it finally fell onto a factory and a two story buildings. An eye witness, Kabiru Salami, a resident of No 107 Odetunde Street, who said he was on the top floor of his house when the aircraft crashed on the factory and the two story building claimed the aircraft did not nosedive, rather it had its nose up and the tail closer to the ground before it finally hit the two building with its belly while the tail hit the factory building.
"I was outside on the balcony when suddenly I saw the aircraft coming down forcefully. The aircraft was moving in a zigzag manner. I was shocked when one of its wings push down the coconut and mango tree on its path. It did not come down with its nose. The nose was raised up while the tail side went down till it hit the two story buildings with its belly side and finally fell on both the building and the factory.” he said. Another eyewitness, a Pastor Fredrick Akingbe, the owner of building number 5 which was the third building to the factory located at number 9, Popoola Street said that he had just left his church located next to the factory where the aircraft crashed when he heard a big bang and by the time he came out, thick smoke was bellowing into the atmosphere and he had to run out of the building .Confirming Kiburu statement, Akingbe said the aircraft did not explode immediately it crashed on the building.
“I had just returned from the church and undressing when I heard a big bang. I quickly rushed out only to find out that an aircraft had fell into those buildings, suddenly there was a big smoke which enveloped the entire area including my house. I ran out but before we knew what to do there were explosion about four times and the aircraft burst into a very ball of fire which caught the entire buildings and part of my church where I preached this afternoon. But before we also knew what was happening, the entire place had been crowded by on lookers who trooped to this place in their thousands. So, nobody could move near the buildings to rescue anything.
At the scene of the crash, rescue workers were seen putting out the fire while the bodies of some of the residents of the two story buildings were evacuated from the wreckage of the building .
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Dana MD83 following Mayday call collided with power line on approach
A Dana Air McDonnell Douglas MD-83, registration 5N-RAM performing flight 9J-992 from Abuja to Lagos (Nigeria) with 147 passengers and 6 crew, was on approach to Lagos about 11nm from LAG VOR when the crew declared emergency reporting engine problems. At about 15:00L (14:00Z) the aircraft collided with a power line, crashed into a built up area about 1nm abeam threshold runway 18L
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Maybe this is the cause for some confusion...On the website allafrica.com they are saying the A/C took off from Lagos and was trying to return due to an unknown problem...
According to a first hand witness (offshore helicopter pilot who heard the call and who was the first on scene, giving the location to ATC) the mayday call said "double engine failure."
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According to a first hand witness (offshore helicopter pilot who heard the call and who was the first on scene, giving the location to ATC) the mayday call said "double engine failure."
I'm no pilot but in that situation I can only imagine it's a case of "Keep her up as long as I can, try to find a clearing". Is the entire area as densely populated as it looks or could it be they were aiming for a clearing but sadly fell short?
A shame nevertheless and hopefully an in-depth investigation ensues. Whenever I see crash scenes filled with on-lookers it always makes me squirm as in those situations evidence can be disturbed, parts and equipment go missing etc - I suppose in a continent such as Africa it's impossible to police such a situation.
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"A Dana Air McDonnell Douglas MD-83, registration 5N-RAM performing flight 9J-992 from Abuja to Lagos (Nigeria) with 147 passengers and 6 crew, was on approach to Lagos about 11nm from LAG VOR when the crew declared emergency reporting engine problems. At about 15:00L (14:00Z) the aircraft collided with a power line, crashed into a built up area about 1nm abeam threshold runway 18L at Oluwatoyin Street (not intersection of Toyin Street and Olowu Street as originally reported) and burst into flames..."
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Geography lesson for Risq
I suppose in a country such as Africa it's impossible to police such a situation.
Africa is actually a continent with 54 (yes 54, more than EU, America, or Asia!!) different countries and a multitude of ethnicities and thousands of languages.
Africa is actually a continent with 54 (yes 54, more than EU, America, or Asia!!) different countries and a multitude of ethnicities and thousands of languages.
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Thanks for that - this is what I assumed but wanted to make sure. Obviously at this time, we have little information to go by and it's eye witness hearsay with very little knowledge.
The fact the poster was able to quote that a pilot heard the mayday call citing a double engine failure does give us a bit of info though.
Going by the eyewitness report though, the reason I stated a clearing was due to the comment "The plane appeared to be "zigzagging"
Surely if the plane was not under power, you'd limit movement to your control surfaces to maintain what little speed and altitude you have. Which led me to the thought that they were in fact, trying to line up with a clearing (or what they believed to be one)rather than a densely populated area, but fell short.
The reason I say this is because of fairly "controlled" pitch that the eye witness describes. Of course, it could be the crew were trying to eek a couple of hundred more feet in travel, but again, it doesn't make sense to me why the plane would be zig-zagging without power, unless they cited a potential "safe point" as surely it just decreases their range further?
Obviously I'm no Pilot, nor do I claim to be one. I'm no arm chair pilot I just have an interest in all aspects of Aviation. I'm just trying to stimulate conversation and at the same time, hear your opinions. Obviously this is a rumour and news discussion and hopefully I haven't gone outside the realms of "possibility" where I get grief for adding my input.
Update:
I just viewed the crash site on google earth, and it does appear that they had nowhere to go, as there was no clearing. So I suppose that train of thought is out of the window.
Cheers all,
Ah - I did put continent but it appears my i Device decided to change it. Thank you for the correction however, as I can now change it and not look more of a baffoon than I already do,
My point remains (excluding the Country/ Continent error) that the Video footage shows a somewhat chaotic scenario, which could expose equipment to being looted, contaminated evidence etc.
Cheers.
Yes. African cities tend to sprawl wide at lowish heights.
The fact the poster was able to quote that a pilot heard the mayday call citing a double engine failure does give us a bit of info though.
Going by the eyewitness report though, the reason I stated a clearing was due to the comment "The plane appeared to be "zigzagging"
Surely if the plane was not under power, you'd limit movement to your control surfaces to maintain what little speed and altitude you have. Which led me to the thought that they were in fact, trying to line up with a clearing (or what they believed to be one)rather than a densely populated area, but fell short.
The reason I say this is because of fairly "controlled" pitch that the eye witness describes. Of course, it could be the crew were trying to eek a couple of hundred more feet in travel, but again, it doesn't make sense to me why the plane would be zig-zagging without power, unless they cited a potential "safe point" as surely it just decreases their range further?
Obviously I'm no Pilot, nor do I claim to be one. I'm no arm chair pilot I just have an interest in all aspects of Aviation. I'm just trying to stimulate conversation and at the same time, hear your opinions. Obviously this is a rumour and news discussion and hopefully I haven't gone outside the realms of "possibility" where I get grief for adding my input.
Update:
I just viewed the crash site on google earth, and it does appear that they had nowhere to go, as there was no clearing. So I suppose that train of thought is out of the window.
Cheers all,
I suppose in a country such as Africa it's impossible to police such a situation.
Africa is actually a continent with 54 (yes 54, more than EU, America, or Asia!!) different countries and a multitude of ethnicities and thousands of languages.
Africa is actually a continent with 54 (yes 54, more than EU, America, or Asia!!) different countries and a multitude of ethnicities and thousands of languages.
My point remains (excluding the Country/ Continent error) that the Video footage shows a somewhat chaotic scenario, which could expose equipment to being looted, contaminated evidence etc.
Cheers.
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