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American Airlines pilots union prepares for a strike vote
Posted Wednesday, Aug. 22, 2012
By Barry Shlachter
American Airlines’ bankruptcy just got messier with its pilots union saying it will consider a strike if the carrier’s parent corporation, AMR, scraps their contract and imposes “negative” new terms.
The board of the Allied Pilots Association on Wednesday agreed to start preparations for a strike vote and a spokesman said it could take place “within a matter of weeks.”
The announcement comes after the company’s move last week to ask U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Sean Lane a second time to throw out the union’s existing contract and allow it to impose cost-saving changes. Lane rejected the company’s first request, saying it had overreached in two of its cost-cutting proposals. American’s new motion adjusted those provisions.
The pilots are the only union at American that failed to ratify a new cost-cutting contract with the carrier, with members voting overwhelmingly against it two weeks ago. Now it is the only union facing contract abrogation...
Posted Wednesday, Aug. 22, 2012
By Barry Shlachter
American Airlines’ bankruptcy just got messier with its pilots union saying it will consider a strike if the carrier’s parent corporation, AMR, scraps their contract and imposes “negative” new terms.
The board of the Allied Pilots Association on Wednesday agreed to start preparations for a strike vote and a spokesman said it could take place “within a matter of weeks.”
The announcement comes after the company’s move last week to ask U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Sean Lane a second time to throw out the union’s existing contract and allow it to impose cost-saving changes. Lane rejected the company’s first request, saying it had overreached in two of its cost-cutting proposals. American’s new motion adjusted those provisions.
The pilots are the only union at American that failed to ratify a new cost-cutting contract with the carrier, with members voting overwhelmingly against it two weeks ago. Now it is the only union facing contract abrogation...
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Last US airline group to try this tactic was Eastern. That didn't work out so well.
Eastern was an entirely different situation, as there was never any i,ntention by the CEO to keep the airline going, but rather to strip it's assets to support Continental, however, I dont see a strike achieving anything but being blocked by the courts....good luck to them all!!!
Eastern was an entirely different situation, as there was never any i,ntention by the CEO to keep the airline going, but rather to strip it's assets to support Continental, however, I dont see a strike achieving anything but being blocked by the courts....good luck to them all!!!
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AA management is once again using tactics to cut costs via the employees as they did in 2003. They cut pay by 23% for all employees and gave themselves a bonus for doing so. They are corrupt people but will always find a way to take from employees then benefit themselves. I hope if a USAIR merger happens they fire every one of them.
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Last US airline group to try this tactic was Eastern. That didn't work out so well.
'The Reverend' Jesse Jackson held a rally down at IAM headquarters on 36th Street during the Eastern strike. He was on a flatbed truck wearing an EAL captain's hat preaching to the choir with a megaphone. These union movements take on a religious zeal and get momentum but when you're being marched off a cliff maybe someone should stop and think about the big picture.
Remember how the FedEx folks were belittled for backing down in 1998 when they called off their pending pilot strike? They lived to fight another day and now they (and Fred) are making top dollar in the flying business.
I would suggest that going on strike is not the pro forma ballet it was a couple of decades ago where there was a settlement, everyone came back to work and you got a pay raise and a 'return to duty' line check.
Anyway, I paid all the assessments for the EAL strike, went to their HQ on Virginia Avenue in ATL to help out, and walked the picket line in another ALPA carrier's uniform. I remember the 'hospitality suite' in MIA, was it at the Sheraton? It was the world's biggest party for the first few days...
Any of you sea lawyers know what the rules are if the AA BK judge imposes work rules under 1113? Status quo is gone so the APA can go into self-help and the company can hire replacements? Or is a strike still illegal while operating under the supervision of the BK judge before a trustee is appointed? Some of this stuff should be in the AIM by now.
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Judges Decision
AMR can abandon pilots' union contract: judge
REUTERS — 5:45 PM ET 09/04/12
NEW YORK (Reuters) - A judge on Tuesday ruled that AMR Corp, the bankrupt parent of American Airlines, can abrogate its collective bargaining agreement with its unionized pilots.
Judge Sean Lane issued his ruling from the bench at a hearing in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Manhattan, saying the company successfully corrected certain issues that had caused him to reject its earlier same request.
AMR, which is seeking to save more than $1 billion a year in labor costs, can now unilaterally impose temporary work terms on its pilots as the sides continue to hash out long-term deals.
(Reporting by Nick Brown; Editing by Leslie Gevirtz)
REUTERS — 5:45 PM ET 09/04/12
NEW YORK (Reuters) - A judge on Tuesday ruled that AMR Corp, the bankrupt parent of American Airlines, can abrogate its collective bargaining agreement with its unionized pilots.
Judge Sean Lane issued his ruling from the bench at a hearing in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Manhattan, saying the company successfully corrected certain issues that had caused him to reject its earlier same request.
AMR, which is seeking to save more than $1 billion a year in labor costs, can now unilaterally impose temporary work terms on its pilots as the sides continue to hash out long-term deals.
(Reporting by Nick Brown; Editing by Leslie Gevirtz)
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Eastern Pilot's
At least they had the ba..s to stand up!!!! Haven't seen any of that in the last 20 years . Bus driver wages here we come. !!! Nobody backed the pilots now you have a garbage collector making more than a pilot. Shamefull !!!!!!!!!
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BOHICA from AA to their employees.
I lived through the EAL mess, and have tons of sympathy for the AA pilots.
From Flight Global:
American to implement new pilots contract
By: Edward Russell Washington DC
American Airlines received approval from the bankruptcy court to reject its pilots contract and implement a new term sheet today.
US Bankruptcy Court for the Southern District of New York judge Sean Lane approved the Fort Worth-based carrier's revised section 1113 motion to void its pilots contract despite concerns raised by the Allied Pilots Association (APA), which represents the employees, following a hearing in New York.
"Judge Lane's ruling is very important because it will allow us to implement the changes that are necessary for our successful restructuring," says American.
The airline filed the revised term sheet on 17 August following judge Lane's rejection of its original request citing concerns over the proposed codeshare and furlough language on 15 August.
Under the new term sheet, American can enter into unlimited domestic codeshares with Alaska Airlines, Hawaiian Airlines and other carriers with a few exceptions. Routes between Hawaii and Chicago O'Hare, Dallas-Fort Worth, Los Angeles and San Diego would be excluded from a partnership with Alaska, and the Hawaiian agreement would only cover intra-island flights.
New domestic codeshare agreements also cannot exceed more than 50% of American's domestic available seat miles during any 12-month period.
Furlough language from the now rejected contract was kept in the new term sheet. American can furlough up to 2,000 pilots and has a force majeure clause allowing for additional furloughs in the case of unexpected events.
American says that it will share implementation plans with the APA during the next few days.
The APA did not comment by press time.
The union approved a strike vote, which will begin when the new term sheet is implemented, on 22 August.
From Flight Global:
American to implement new pilots contract
By: Edward Russell Washington DC
American Airlines received approval from the bankruptcy court to reject its pilots contract and implement a new term sheet today.
US Bankruptcy Court for the Southern District of New York judge Sean Lane approved the Fort Worth-based carrier's revised section 1113 motion to void its pilots contract despite concerns raised by the Allied Pilots Association (APA), which represents the employees, following a hearing in New York.
"Judge Lane's ruling is very important because it will allow us to implement the changes that are necessary for our successful restructuring," says American.
The airline filed the revised term sheet on 17 August following judge Lane's rejection of its original request citing concerns over the proposed codeshare and furlough language on 15 August.
Under the new term sheet, American can enter into unlimited domestic codeshares with Alaska Airlines, Hawaiian Airlines and other carriers with a few exceptions. Routes between Hawaii and Chicago O'Hare, Dallas-Fort Worth, Los Angeles and San Diego would be excluded from a partnership with Alaska, and the Hawaiian agreement would only cover intra-island flights.
New domestic codeshare agreements also cannot exceed more than 50% of American's domestic available seat miles during any 12-month period.
Furlough language from the now rejected contract was kept in the new term sheet. American can furlough up to 2,000 pilots and has a force majeure clause allowing for additional furloughs in the case of unexpected events.
American says that it will share implementation plans with the APA during the next few days.
The APA did not comment by press time.
The union approved a strike vote, which will begin when the new term sheet is implemented, on 22 August.
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We have flights to the Reno Air Races coming up in the next week. Now I don't know if we will get there or back. Things tend to slow down a lot right about now when AA screws you again. We all tried to do our best to show our pain and make AA suffer also. I am sure it will happen again this time. Can't blame them.