Mr Diamond in Virgin Flight Deck LOS-LHR?
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Whilst most of you will say there is nothing wrong with this incident, it does prove that there is one rule for the wealthy and another for the rest of us.
Before all these banal security rules we used to have people such as air traffic controllers, firemen and even spouses, sons and daughters to visit the flightdeck - notice that the Daily Mail article states these rules only apply to UK registered a/c and/or those in UK airspace. Notwithstanding that individual airlines/states may have their own rules this is not the case universally.
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You beat me to it fireflybob. There might be the odd exception here and there but apart from UK and US carriers FD visit policy on most other airlines have pretty much remained what they were before 911. Common sense is applied. Let's remind ourselves that the 911 terrorists were not invited to the FD at the Captain's discretion.
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Not that easy on a US carrier!
Our new CEO was on one of our flights last week and during flight wanted to visit the cockpit. Nose was definitely out of joint when response came from cockpit that he could not due to the DHS rules.
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Flight deck entry
There is a problem here the rules say no entry- so why does one Capt think he can break the rules - and it begs belief he did it while the PM was on board!- I actually think its a good rule- if i worked in an office i wouldnt want every tom dick and harry walking in. Also what was the Virgin Captain thinking then making a PA saying Bob Diamond landed the plane...was he trying to make some sort of Joke to the PM? Sorry Pablo was sacked and this guy needs sacking too.
if i worked in an office i wouldnt want every tom dick and harry walking in
Of course the rules should be obeyed but it's a stupid rule that doesn't allow the Captain discretion,
Highly doubt the captain hesitated to grant entry.
Not quite the same but, I made the foolish error of allowing some oik and his son to sit in for landing at a Greek island. At 50' said oik slapped me on shoulder and asked "Do'st tha know where tha's goin'?"
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Just out of interest, which bit of legislation says that you can't have passengers on the jumpseat?
I would.
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The shame is that it used to be a lot of fun. Maybe a sign on the cockpit door to say that anyone with a beard and box cutters, exploding shoes or liquid bomb ingredients is not welcome.
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Family jump seats
I used to take my wife and family with me on flights quite often knowing I had control of two jump seats (+ bunks) to get them (or crew companions) home. Now the only option is a jump seat in the cabin...for 10 hours? Several times the cabin crew have introduced the "Captain's wife" to pax, more often than not in economy...pass the Stanley knife...broken bottle etc.! It's time to change this rule and get in line with the rest of the world. If the DfT are serious about flight deck safety, why are there still 2 toilets by the flight deck door of a B747?
Answer is always cost/commercial.
Answer is always cost/commercial.
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