AF A330 severe hard landing ccs
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: venezuela
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
AF A330 severe hard landing ccs
anybody know any details?
All I know is that AF and Airbus officials are here and aircraft is severly damaged, both main gears need replacing, 1 is collapsed, heavy fuselage damage etc..
Estimating 1 month of repairs providing they receive permit to fly out of here..
All I know is that AF and Airbus officials are here and aircraft is severly damaged, both main gears need replacing, 1 is collapsed, heavy fuselage damage etc..
Estimating 1 month of repairs providing they receive permit to fly out of here..
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 300
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
taken from jacdec.de
DATE: 13.04.2011 LOCAL TIME: - LOCATION: Caracas-Maiquetia Intl AP (SVMI) COUNTRY: Venezuela
AIRLINE: Air France TYPE: Airbus A330-200 REGISTRATION: F-GZCB C/N: 443 AGE: 9 y + 4 m
OPERATION: ISP FLIGHT No.: AF 471 FROM: Caracas TO: Paris-CDG VIA: -
OCCUPANTS: PAX: - CREW: -
FATALITIES: PAX: 0 CREW: 0 OTHER: 0
INJURIES: PAX: 0 CREW: 0 OTHER: 0
DAMAGE TO AIRCRAFT: minor /
substantial 1
Very soon after departure, the pilots received indication about a fault in the gear retraction system and elected to return to land. On landing return, the A330 made a hard touchdown resulting in structural damage to the fuselage and both maingear legs. Longer maintenance expected.
Happened in darkness. Center Fuselage wrinkled. Both mlg needed replacement confirmed.. No pics unfortunately.
No idea why the landing return turned out to be so severe. Pirep would be interesting to read.
DATE: 13.04.2011 LOCAL TIME: - LOCATION: Caracas-Maiquetia Intl AP (SVMI) COUNTRY: Venezuela
AIRLINE: Air France TYPE: Airbus A330-200 REGISTRATION: F-GZCB C/N: 443 AGE: 9 y + 4 m
OPERATION: ISP FLIGHT No.: AF 471 FROM: Caracas TO: Paris-CDG VIA: -
OCCUPANTS: PAX: - CREW: -
FATALITIES: PAX: 0 CREW: 0 OTHER: 0
INJURIES: PAX: 0 CREW: 0 OTHER: 0
DAMAGE TO AIRCRAFT: minor /
substantial 1
Very soon after departure, the pilots received indication about a fault in the gear retraction system and elected to return to land. On landing return, the A330 made a hard touchdown resulting in structural damage to the fuselage and both maingear legs. Longer maintenance expected.
Happened in darkness. Center Fuselage wrinkled. Both mlg needed replacement confirmed.. No pics unfortunately.
No idea why the landing return turned out to be so severe. Pirep would be interesting to read.
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: NNW of Antipodes
Age: 81
Posts: 1,330
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Could have been an overweight landing, subject to fuel jettison.
Guest
Posts: n/a
Aviation Herald:
Incident: Air France A332 at Caracas on Apr 13th 2011, unsafe gear after departure
The airplane entered a holding to troubleshoot the problem, after about 25 minutes the crew declared emergency however. The aircraft burned off fuel before landing safely on Caracas' runway 10 almost 3 hours after departure.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: venezuela
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Well, just talked to AF guys here in ccs and they say that the hard landing was actually when it arrived in CCS the same day.
Inspection was carried out but no findings, then when they departed they had the unsafe gear or couldn't retract and hence returned to ccs..
That time the RH gear collapsed causing further damage..
It will be interesting to follow this since CCS is much like africa, there is nothing here, no hangar etc to support the A330 or similar aircraft
Apparently Airbus are planning to build a portable hangar for the gear change here and then try to fly it out somehow..
Inspection was carried out but no findings, then when they departed they had the unsafe gear or couldn't retract and hence returned to ccs..
That time the RH gear collapsed causing further damage..
It will be interesting to follow this since CCS is much like africa, there is nothing here, no hangar etc to support the A330 or similar aircraft
Apparently Airbus are planning to build a portable hangar for the gear change here and then try to fly it out somehow..
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: FUBAR
Posts: 3,348
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Given the problems encountered by a Portugese operator recently vis-a -vis gear inspection following a heavy landing on an A320, how easy is this inspection to perform (or perhaps , how easy is it to understand the manual) in comparison to say a Boeing ?
Inspection was carried out but no findings,
There for the grace of............
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Europe
Posts: 182
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hmmm... difficult job without proper infrastructure...
Jacking the airplane, then heavy LDG tooling required.
MSN 443, so good chances of secondary findings on bushes and corrosion on/in the lugs. Cadmium plating for replacement bushes available at CCS?
I keep my fingers crossed!
Jacking the airplane, then heavy LDG tooling required.
MSN 443, so good chances of secondary findings on bushes and corrosion on/in the lugs. Cadmium plating for replacement bushes available at CCS?
I keep my fingers crossed!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: venezuela
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
maybe available but no EASA approved repair shops in CCS..
This will be interesting indeed.
This is funny because there is an A340 from Aerolineas Argentina on the remote AOG for 3 days because the gear didnt go up..its a flu!
This will be interesting indeed.
This is funny because there is an A340 from Aerolineas Argentina on the remote AOG for 3 days because the gear didnt go up..its a flu!
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: SLF, living somewhere East in the West
Posts: 235
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
inspection
To my uneducated ear/eye that doesn't bide well for AF, yet another accident. So, they inspected after a hard landing the gear, don't find anything, than the gear doesn't retract on the following leg and the subsequent return results in damage to gear AND fuselage...? Oh my...
Psychophysiological entity
Is the distortion in the fuselage confirmed? If so, who's the lucky guy doing the ferry?
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: FR
Posts: 477
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Nemo Me Impune Lacessit
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Derbyshire, England.
Posts: 4,091
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
If the centre fusalage is buckled then can it be far from a write-off, nine years+ old etc?
Presumably it will be an unpressurised ferry to the nearset Airbus equipped facility?
Trying to remember the aircraft I flew when, if you did a heavy landing, some little markers popped up on the upper wing surface, maybe the BAC 1-11?
That time the RH gear collapsed causing further damage..
Trying to remember the aircraft I flew when, if you did a heavy landing, some little markers popped up on the upper wing surface, maybe the BAC 1-11?
Per Ardua ad Astraeus
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 18,579
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by parabellum
Trying to remember the aircraft I flew when, if you did a heavy landing, some little markers popped up on the upper wing surface, maybe the BAC 1-11?
All right!! That's enough!!
I say it is time to list AF in the black book of airlines!
I say it is time to list AF in the black book of airlines!
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: エリア88
Posts: 1,031
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I seem to recall something similar happening to a A330 belonging to a British charter airline a few years back?
IIRC They had had a hard landing which cracked part of the main gear structure, I think the crew reported the hard landing and the onboard QAR recorded it also. Nothing was found during the required maintenance checks however, on the next departure, the gear failed to retract and so they returned at which point the damage was found following a further inspection.
IIRC They had had a hard landing which cracked part of the main gear structure, I think the crew reported the hard landing and the onboard QAR recorded it also. Nothing was found during the required maintenance checks however, on the next departure, the gear failed to retract and so they returned at which point the damage was found following a further inspection.