Air France jet clips smaller plane at New York's JFK airport
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Air France jet clips smaller plane at New York's JFK airport
Air France jet clips smaller plane at New York's JFK airport - CNN.com
(CNN) -- An Airbus 380 clipped a smaller plane while taxiing to the runway for takeoff from New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport, according to CNN's Jim Bittermann, who was on the Air France flight headed to Paris.
Bitterman said that he felt a slight rumble -- akin to hitting a pothole -- as his plane was moving on the ground Monday at about 8:15 p.m. The pilot then stopped the plane, and eventually fire department crews surrounded it and the other aircraft.
Looking out the window, Bitterman could see that the last foot or so of the Airbus 380's left wing had been damaged. The other plane also suffered some damage.
There were no injuries, said a spokeswoman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, who declined to give her name.
The Federal Aviation Administration has been notified, and Port Authority police detectives were interviewing the pilots of both aircraft, the spokeswoman said.
(CNN) -- An Airbus 380 clipped a smaller plane while taxiing to the runway for takeoff from New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport, according to CNN's Jim Bittermann, who was on the Air France flight headed to Paris.
Bitterman said that he felt a slight rumble -- akin to hitting a pothole -- as his plane was moving on the ground Monday at about 8:15 p.m. The pilot then stopped the plane, and eventually fire department crews surrounded it and the other aircraft.
Looking out the window, Bitterman could see that the last foot or so of the Airbus 380's left wing had been damaged. The other plane also suffered some damage.
There were no injuries, said a spokeswoman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, who declined to give her name.
The Federal Aviation Administration has been notified, and Port Authority police detectives were interviewing the pilots of both aircraft, the spokeswoman said.
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Half way down the page of this news link is video of the collision. Looks like AF was moving out smartly. A bit lucky here I think
Two Planes Collide on Ground at JFK | NBC New York.
Two Planes Collide on Ground at JFK | NBC New York.
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The video looks a bit sped up (unclear if it was intentional or not). Look at the guy walking around in the high-visibility vest. When he scoots out of the way, you can tell his cadence is odd.
In any case, AF looked to be a bit eager to get out of dodge.
In any case, AF looked to be a bit eager to get out of dodge.
Well my first response is......stupid bloody idiots. Why in the hell were they taxiing so damn fast down a narrow taxiway at night in JFK?? They are damn lucky no one was hurt.
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RJ PIC - "Get off me you big galoot!"
AF PIC - "Ooh that'll leave a mark.."
I don't think we can blame the captain - he was probably running down the centerline as he should have been, and somebody on the ground miscalculated where to put the little Comair.
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AF PIC - "Ooh that'll leave a mark.."
I don't think we can blame the captain - he was probably running down the centerline as he should have been, and somebody on the ground miscalculated where to put the little Comair.
-drl
Yes, recollect not being happy with wingtip clearance when taxying in at Baku.
ATC started shouting to move, follow me was driving in circles to show the stupid pilot how to do it and our own idiot station manager, whom I'd made the mistake of permitting to sit in the flight deck, was loudly telling us that it was OK to proceed.
So, in the face of all this what did we do? NOTHING - until the FO and I were sure in OUR minds that it was safe to go.
ATC started shouting to move, follow me was driving in circles to show the stupid pilot how to do it and our own idiot station manager, whom I'd made the mistake of permitting to sit in the flight deck, was loudly telling us that it was OK to proceed.
So, in the face of all this what did we do? NOTHING - until the FO and I were sure in OUR minds that it was safe to go.
Ouch!
I feel very vulnerable in the 777 when taxiing round JFK... With the A380 this sort of thing seems inevitable, unfortunately.
From the video clip, it seems that the anti-coll. was active on the RJ, even though no taxi lights were on. Maybe being marshalled by someone out-of-shot?
If it was occupied, must have been quite a shock (and lateral acceleration)...
Edit: It looks like it had just arrived and wasn't quite parked, hence a probable reason for the collision...
I feel very vulnerable in the 777 when taxiing round JFK... With the A380 this sort of thing seems inevitable, unfortunately.
From the video clip, it seems that the anti-coll. was active on the RJ, even though no taxi lights were on. Maybe being marshalled by someone out-of-shot?
If it was occupied, must have been quite a shock (and lateral acceleration)...
Edit: It looks like it had just arrived and wasn't quite parked, hence a probable reason for the collision...
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You most certainly can blame the Captain. Doesn't matter who is in control he has responsibility at all times. They were quite obviously taxiing way way too fast down a taxiway at night in JFK. Even If the CRJ was stopped with his tail infringing the taxiway it is still no excuse not to stop and ENSURE wing tip clearance.
He was taxiing way to fast and didn't give himself a chance.
I'd even suggest it was a big surprise when he hit it as I'll bet he didn't even notice it beforehand. Either that or he has very bad judgement as to how long his wing is.
TUT TUT.
You most certainly can blame the Captain. Doesn't matter who is in control he has responsibility at all times. They were quite obviously taxiing way way too fast down a taxiway at night in JFK. Even If the CRJ was stopped with his tail infringing the taxiway it is still no excuse not to stop and ENSURE wing tip clearance.
He was taxiing way to fast and didn't give himself a chance.
I'd even suggest it was a big surprise when he hit it as I'll bet he didn't even notice it beforehand. Either that or he has very bad judgement as to how long his wing is.
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Holy cow did you see the smaller aircraft swing round 
Still Airbus have got these left hand wing changes off to a "T" now......
Still Airbus have got these left hand wing changes off to a "T" now......
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