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Air France jet clips smaller plane at New York's JFK airport

Old 12th Apr 2011, 01:33
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Air France jet clips smaller plane at New York's JFK airport

Air France jet clips smaller plane at New York's JFK airport - CNN.com

(CNN) -- An Airbus 380 clipped a smaller plane while taxiing to the runway for takeoff from New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport, according to CNN's Jim Bittermann, who was on the Air France flight headed to Paris.
Bitterman said that he felt a slight rumble -- akin to hitting a pothole -- as his plane was moving on the ground Monday at about 8:15 p.m. The pilot then stopped the plane, and eventually fire department crews surrounded it and the other aircraft.
Looking out the window, Bitterman could see that the last foot or so of the Airbus 380's left wing had been damaged. The other plane also suffered some damage.
There were no injuries, said a spokeswoman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, who declined to give her name.
The Federal Aviation Administration has been notified, and Port Authority police detectives were interviewing the pilots of both aircraft, the spokeswoman said.
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Old 12th Apr 2011, 04:22
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an airbus 380 clipped a smaller plane

well, gee, even a 747 is a smaller plane...so what kind of plane did it clip?

and

what won't CNN do for a piece.?
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Old 12th Apr 2011, 04:29
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Maybe the "smaller plane" take your pick at every other plane out there clipped Air France A380.
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Old 12th Apr 2011, 04:58
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Half way down the page of this news link is video of the collision. Looks like AF was moving out smartly. A bit lucky here I think

Two Planes Collide on Ground at JFK | NBC New York.
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Old 12th Apr 2011, 06:33
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Looking at the video, I'd say "clipped" is an understatement. More like "hooked and dragged".
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Old 12th Apr 2011, 06:51
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The video looks a bit sped up (unclear if it was intentional or not). Look at the guy walking around in the high-visibility vest. When he scoots out of the way, you can tell his cadence is odd.

In any case, AF looked to be a bit eager to get out of dodge.
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Old 12th Apr 2011, 07:06
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YT link here:


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Old 12th Apr 2011, 07:21
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I wouldn't like to have been sitting up front in the parked aircraft!

Looks like kids' toys!
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Old 12th Apr 2011, 07:22
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Well my first response is......stupid bloody idiots. Why in the hell were they taxiing so damn fast down a narrow taxiway at night in JFK?? They are damn lucky no one was hurt.

No excuses I'm afraid....
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Old 12th Apr 2011, 07:29
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And that folks is why you should keep your seatbelt on until the aircraft is parked at the gate!
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Old 12th Apr 2011, 07:42
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Rather impressed that the tail of the CRJ held together. Must have been under a heck of a load.
(Wonders how an A-300 tail-fin might have reacted.)
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Old 12th Apr 2011, 07:48
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RJ PIC - "Get off me you big galoot!"

AF PIC - "Ooh that'll leave a mark.."

I don't think we can blame the captain - he was probably running down the centerline as he should have been, and somebody on the ground miscalculated where to put the little Comair.

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Ouch!

I feel very vulnerable in the 777 when taxiing round JFK... With the A380 this sort of thing seems inevitable, unfortunately.

From the video clip, it seems that the anti-coll. was active on the RJ, even though no taxi lights were on. Maybe being marshalled by someone out-of-shot?

If it was occupied, must have been quite a shock (and lateral acceleration)...

Edit: It looks like it had just arrived and wasn't quite parked, hence a probable reason for the collision...
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Here`s the audio...
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You most certainly can blame the Captain. Doesn't matter who is in control he has responsibility at all times. They were quite obviously taxiing way way too fast down a taxiway at night in JFK. Even If the CRJ was stopped with his tail infringing the taxiway it is still no excuse not to stop and ENSURE wing tip clearance.
He was taxiing way to fast and didn't give himself a chance.

I'd even suggest it was a big surprise when he hit it as I'll bet he didn't even notice it beforehand. Either that or he has very bad judgement as to how long his wing is.

TUT TUT.
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Old 12th Apr 2011, 08:42
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It's possible the Air France crew didn't even notice the jet parked there. I'd be surprised if they sailed on by with the "she'll be right" attitude.
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Theres going to be some paperwork to fill out for both those Captains (and SMC)

Watch the anti Airbus brigade jump on the anti airbus podium
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Holy cow did you see the smaller aircraft swing round


Still Airbus have got these left hand wing changes off to a "T" now......

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Looking at the video, I'd say "clipped" is an understatement. More like "hooked and dragged".

You sum it up best
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Old 12th Apr 2011, 09:01
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will be interesting to hear the cvr on the CRJ few expletives I would guess
cockpit crew must have wondered what an earth was going on as would not have been able to see A380
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