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Ryanair evacuation in Kerry

Old 22nd Dec 2010, 23:10
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I would hate to be a Ryanair pilot. I would automatically be labelled as "inadequate" purely based on the company I work for.
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Old 23rd Dec 2010, 00:42
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Well a lot of them are good enough for BA, Emirates, Etihad, I only know too well I have seen many of them walk these last few months. But of course like anything with Ryanair the pilots ability comes into question always if anything goes wrong.

No trial . Straight away the two guys/gals up the front got it wrong.

Some "pilots" on here beggar belief.

WAIT FOR THE FACTS!
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Old 23rd Dec 2010, 01:29
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People need to give Ryanair a break. If it was any other airline a big deal wouldn't be made about it but just because it's a low cost carrier people always think the worst. People also need to remenber that Ryanair have the youngest aircraft fleet in Europe and they are one of the safest airlines to fly with.
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Old 23rd Dec 2010, 08:15
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If this thread is anything to go by, it's not surprising that staff don't trust management to apply 'no blame' principles.

Some of you guys have the crew found guilty and punished before the investigation even begins!!

Lol
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Old 23rd Dec 2010, 10:30
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Persons of very small brain !

I would like to refer to post #8 on this thread, it would seem that most of the posting idiots are so anti-Ryanair that they don't read the whole thread but are just happy to jump in with both feet with a rant.

Most of the stuff they say is pooly informed and has no hard evidence to back it up.........................the rest of what they have to say is pure rubbish rehashed from the rubbish they read on this forum.

Oh! and I still don't like the way MOL conducts his business.........but I do like well considered opinion based hard evidence.
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Old 23rd Dec 2010, 14:32
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Without any reference to the Kerry mishap, FR pilots are now reminded by Cheif Pilot that ingestion of runway anti-/deice agents may manifest itself as blue smoke in the flightdeck and/or cabin.
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Old 23rd Dec 2010, 16:06
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Hey folks,
My good friend was aboard this flight returning home to Kerry for xmas.
I asked him a few questions about the experience and below are some of his responses via email....

"I slept for the entire flight as had a late one the night before and damn Desperados (beer & tequila) took alot out of me! Woke up when pilot said cabin crew 10 mins to landing. Bit of a bumpy landing but no more unusual than any time I have landed in Kerry as runway is small. we were turning into the airport and I could smell smoke so looked out to the wing, then looked up to cabin and it was filling with smoke. Plane then shut down i.e. lights went off and engine cut out. Pilot came on intercom to say everyone remain seated. To then come on 10 seconds later to say emergency evacuation everybody get out of the plane. Grabbed my bag and went towards exit to see disturbed looking crew and slid down the inflatable thingy. (a bit like last scene of Die Hard!!) fireman at the end of slide said to just run and get away from the plane so I just went through terminal as didnt fancy going into snow filled field! and then had a pint to be joined by a few people who needed a brandy to calm their nerves.
Some were shouting and grown men were crying afterwards. When we slid down the firemen were telling everyone to run away from the plane and some people were running into fields!!
The two(Cabin crew) I dealt with were very shaken but they got everyone off efficiently. There was an elderly woman on a wheelchair that took quite a while to get off though.
All baggage was bought to the front of the building for people to collect within an hour. I had to wait 30 mins for a barman to show up to serve me a pint!"
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Old 23rd Dec 2010, 16:29
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"grabbed my bag and..."???

If you see smoke and are asked to leave, it does not seem smart to "grab your bag". I give benefit of the doubt and assume it was not in the overhead locker.
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Old 23rd Dec 2010, 16:34
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couldn't agree more.. shouldn't have taken the bag, but I am just passing on the info.
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Old 23rd Dec 2010, 17:43
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Grabbed my bag


And yes, I do realise you are just quoting someone else, but still
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Old 23rd Dec 2010, 22:38
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Don't blame him for grabbing his bag. Would probably do the same as I often carry a great deal of valuables and sensitive information when I travel.
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Old 23rd Dec 2010, 22:41
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Airbus A321 - you may want to acquaint yourself with the Saudia L1011 incident from the early 80s. By the time the captain had taxied in, rather than stopping on the rwy, all the pax were dead.
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Old 24th Dec 2010, 00:59
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Well said !!!!!

Second quessing 2 professional pilots who deem it necessary to evacuate is not just bad manners but shows a real lack of professionalism.

No pilot I have ever met / known will push into doing an emergency evacuation unless they have considered everything else.
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Old 24th Dec 2010, 01:34
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Don't blame him for grabbing his bag. Would probably do the same as I often carry a great deal of valuables and sensitive information when I travel.
Please don't, if it ever happens to you. People worrying about their valuables and trying to take their luggage with them can potentially cost the lives of those behind them in the cabin. It's an emergency evacuation for sake!

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Old 24th Dec 2010, 08:36
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Been following the above discussion and just wanted to add my tupence worth. The crews' priority is passenger safety first, and thats what they've been trained to do. No hesitation. Lives first, even in doubt, everything else is secondary. The crew did the right thing, and as someone correctly pointed out, look what happened with the Saudia incident. Bashing the crew is unfair, and stupid. They are all highly trained professionals, and recieve the same training, irrespective of the airline and pay conditions. I am of course refering to European and North American pilots.
As for carrying out baggage with you in an emergency, yes of course its stupid and dangerous, especially if its in the overheads, however, being a serious photographer, when I'm flying I always have my camera by my feet or in my lap and snapping out of the window. In an (touch wood it doesn't happen) emergency I would probably throw the camera strap over my neck before running out. Not because of the value, but being next to an emergency situation I would want the camera in my hands to record what is happening, not stuck up there in the plane.
I was wondering, with these emergency evacuations, why does everyone clamour for the inflatable chutes at the two doors, why are the overwing emergency exits not used ? When everyone is clamouring in a 'queue' to get out of the doors, isn't it quicker to also have people exit via the overwings ?
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Old 24th Dec 2010, 15:09
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A 321 must be one very smug pilot, flying for any airline other then Ryanair, and on a nice shiny Airbus no less. Unfortunately, all that smugness hasn't imbued the fellow with one iota of common sense or even any evidence of that thing we used to call airmanship.

As mentioned earlier, the L1011 fatal accident should be required study for all pilots, something A 321 evidently hasn't seen.

one is airmanship and experience the other one is just blindfold rush into proecedures - like a monkey
- pay peanuts treat your crews like monkeys as and that is what you get then..
anyway let's wait and see for the outcome then, if there is any


What makes you think that Ryaniar pay peanuts? In front of me is my tax coding from 2007-08 showing an income of £108607 and it was all from Ryanair, no other source.

Read rubbish, write rubbish, as proved by A321.

As for the comment about waiting for the outcome, well, please practice what you preach. Heaven preserve us from the likes of such an unpleasant and biggoted individual.
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Old 24th Dec 2010, 16:37
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You are assuming that Airbus a321 is a pilot flying an Airbus. For all he tells us about himself he is just as likely to be a Micro Soft flt sim expert. I am happy to put some details of my background in my profile, as are you, but a lot of people put nothing, which always makes me wonder why.
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Old 24th Dec 2010, 18:14
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Some of you guys have the crew found guilty and punished before the investigation even begins!!
Could be that those that are so critical of FR...were the same ones that applied through the HR front door, and promptly shown the exit.
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Old 24th Dec 2010, 18:28
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Aah, Ryanair...

Look, I bet the mods remove this, and for heaven's sake don't click to play on the youtube link if you are easily offended; but if even one person gets to see this and laugh as much as I did, it'll be a decent Christmas present to the members.

YouTube - Hitler Ryanair Rant

Happy Christmas, all.
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Old 24th Dec 2010, 18:46
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IMHO, to err on the slide of caution wasn't such a bad decision.
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